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re: Jeremy Hill arrested for battery

Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:51 am to
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:51 am to
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If I get arrested for this same crime, I lose my job immediately.


Most peopel don't lose their jobs for being charged with a misdemeanor.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13620 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:52 am to
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If I get arrested for this same crime, I lose my job immediately.


Where in the hell do you work, and why would they fire you for getting into a bar fight? Also, what was his first chance? Isnt this his first incident while he was on this football team?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70599 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:53 am to
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why would they fire you for getting into a bar fight?


I would probably get fired for getting into a bar fight. But I'm 30 and am expected to have better judgement than a 20 year old.
Posted by geauxranger54
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
1158 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:54 am to
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Most peopel don't lose their jobs for being charged with a misdemeanor.


I would get fired if I assaulted or batttered someone. Particularly if my employer already knew I had a previous conviction in the nature that J.Hill had.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22797 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:55 am to
Geaux Ranger doesn't even understand what a simple battery charge is..............and secondly, he doesn't even understand the policies of his own employer.........

but we should take his opinion seriously on discipling a major college football program.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22797 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:56 am to
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I would get fired if I assaulted or batttered someone. Particularly if my employer already knew I had a previous conviction in the nature that J.Hill had.



There's a difference between assault and battery......you should just hire a lawyer for this thread and be quiet.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:56 am to
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Isnt this his first incident while he was on this football team?


I don't see why this would matter. To play devils advocate...he would of been part of this football team earlier if not for the first incident. Do you think the Cardinals disregarded Mathieu's past because he wasn't on the team when the crimes took place? I know this is comparing apples to squash, but you can't just judge someone's character by the time you have spent with them.
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 11:58 am
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13620 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:56 am to
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I would get fired if I assaulted or batttered someone


It's a freakin misdemeanor. Most companies would "frown" upon it but they wouldnt let someone go for getting into a fight, especially one in which this allegedly happened.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22797 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:57 am to
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I would probably get fired for getting into a bar fight. But I'm 30 and am expected to have better judgement than a 20 year o


Does your employer make you fill out questionnaires quarterly for crimes?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70599 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:58 am to
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Most companies would "frown" upon it but they wouldnt let someone go for getting into a fight, especially one in which this allegedly happened.


There are plenty of companies out there that would fire someone for this. I'm sure they'd all let the legal process play out beforehand though.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:58 am to
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but you can't just judge someone's character by the time you have spent with them


Spending time with someone is a better way to judge someone's character than the way some posters on here are trying to do.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70599 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:59 am to
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Does your employer make you fill out questionnaires quarterly for crimes?


Annually, I think. I don't remember the last one I did.
Posted by geauxranger54
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
1158 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Geaux Ranger doesn't even understand what a simple battery charge is..............and secondly, he doesn't even understand the policies of his own employer......... but we should take his opinion seriously on discipling a major college football program.


1. I do know what simple battery is.
2. I do know my companies policies, as I have written several of them.
3. You don't have to take my opinion seriously, because this is a message board, not a court of law.
4. I simply disagree with you. Dont get personal and butthurt, because some of us on here feel that a legal adult should be held to the same standard as the rest of us, and that setting a standard for behavior is a good idea.

Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13620 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:00 pm to
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I don't see why this would matter.


It matters because this is the first incident he has gotten into while he was a member of the LSU football team. Period. We are not going to get into the details of the other incident as everyone knows that was blown completely out of proportion as well. If Hill was the type that went around looking for trouble, then I can understand coming down hard as it's a matter of time before he stumbles again, but do you really believe that. He got called a Ni**a multiple times to his face and put someone in there place in one incident, and got sexual favors that were consensual from someone a few years younger than him and then parents flipped out. It's not as if he's a felony waiting to happen.
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 12:02 pm
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Spending time with someone is a better way to judge someone's character than the way some posters on here are trying to do.


Let me rephrase it to address the point i was getting at

quote:

but you can't just judge someone's character by ONLY the time you have spent with them and completely disregarding there past


I screwed that up and agree with your statement
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:02 pm to
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that a legal adult should be held to the same standard as the rest of us,


Not everyone is held to the standard you claim to be held to.

I'd much rather my kid be judged on a case by case basis and not some zero tolerance policy.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:03 pm to
Your right he just one of those unlucky characters that just so happens to always be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I believe this same argument could and was made about a few others over the past few years and eventually it came back to bite us (RP, TM, JJ)
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43242 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:05 pm to
You fricks are ready to kick the kid off the team and you dont even know the exact details of what happened.
Posted by geauxranger54
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
1158 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:05 pm to
Stated my opinion. Knew it would be unpopular. But hey,
Stay classy fellas, Im out.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:05 pm to
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about a few others over the past few years and eventually it came back to bite us


How exactly did it come back to bite us?
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