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What's reason behind limited scholarships for baseball?

Posted on 4/22/13 at 2:55 pm
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 2:55 pm
I don't understand it. There has to be a reason and I just don't know.


The sport is primarily white players, do you think if it were primarily black players it would be different?

ETA for clarification: I'm not saying there aren't many scholarships because it is a white sport, or that race has anything to do with it. It was just a thought in my head that maybe more people would be arguing to gain scholarships if it were primarily black players.
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 3:19 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79062 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 2:56 pm to
I could give you some legitimate answers, but because of the second half of your post, I will not be joining in this conversation.
Posted by At Work
Member since Nov 2008
1281 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 2:57 pm to
Title 9 is the reason girl sports..
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 2:57 pm to
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Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

The sport is primarily white players, do you think if it were primarily black players it would be different?


Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27882 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:00 pm to
Title IX and the retardation that is including football into the mens scholarship numbers.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37429 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

I don't understand it. There has to be a reason and I just don't know.



There is...and it has nothing to do with

quote:

The sport is primarily white players, do you think if it were primarily black players it would be different?



and everything to do with



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Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:03 pm to
Terrible womens sports that no one cares about.
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11898 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:04 pm to
I don't know, but read this article.

It blames NCAA scholarship limits instead of title IX.

LINK

quote:

LSU baseball is a perennial powerhouse, with six national championships since 1991. But the Tigers find it increasingly difficult to recruit. Although the school awards 85 football scholarships -- in some years committing to more athletes than it can actually accommodate, like an airline overbooking passengers -- LSU divides just 11.7 scholarships among its baseball players.

Every year, head coach Paul Mainieri scurries around the country to offer preps a fraction of a free ride. So it's not surprising to hear that he would like more scholarships. "I don't know that I've ever had a player receive a scholarship in the amount which was commensurate to his value," he recently told the LSU student newspaper, The Daily Reveille. "It's sad, really, that college baseball is treated that way."

Skip Bertman, who coached baseball at LSU from 1984 to 2001, then built the school into a sports powerhouse as athletic director from 2001-08, believes he knows where to put the blame. "I think," Bertman said in March, "baseball is pretty much a victim of Title IX."

Surveys consistently show that Americans overwhelmingly approve of the purpose, enforcement and impact of Title IX. But the approval often comes with an undercurrent of resentment: Many supporters of men's sports harbor the bitter conviction that Title IX is killing their teams, and that only political correctness prevents the world from acknowledging it. A blogger named Eric McErlain echoed those voices in an opinion piece he wrote for The Daily Caller, a website focused mainly on breaking news and political commentary. "Why," he asks, "is ESPN ignoring the damage caused by Title IX?"

We'll answer that one: Because, Eric, Title IX is not the problem.

Colleges have indeed axed hundreds of men's teams in the Title IX era, often while explicitly scapegoating the law. And although courts have firmly rejected the argument that Title IX discriminates against men, the frustration of men's sports advocates is somewhat understandable. They've watched too many top men's programs die -- including baseball at Providence, gymnastics at Iowa State and swimming at UCLA -- while schools have rushed to provide new opportunities to women in sports such as rowing, soccer and volleyball.

But if you leave preconceptions aside and just look at the data, you will find that the real enemy of men's sports isn't Title IX. It's NCAA scholarship limits.

This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 3:05 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80542 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:06 pm to
It's hard to understand how LSU fans can't grasp that 95% of colleges don't give a shite about college baseball.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22532 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

The sport is primarily white players, do you think if it were primarily black players it would be different?



I don't answer thug POS

Call me secretary and maybe I'll call you back.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10385 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

It's hard to understand how LSU fans can't grasp that 95% of colleges don't give a shite about college baseball.


But they do care about womens volleyball, softball, tennis, etc?
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80542 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

But they do care about womens volleyball, softball, tennis, etc?


Most places it's the same apathy to all those.
Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Oct 2007
22967 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:13 pm to
What is bullshite is that basketball, which starts 5 players and rotates about 8 to maybe 10, gets 13 scholarships (women's bball gets 15), and baseball which starts 10 plus relief pitching and a 35 man roster only has 11.7 scholarships. And you could go down the line with a bunch of others of course.


Women's rowing needs 20 full scholarships??
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10385 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:15 pm to
Before Title IX, was it up to the university to decide how to distribute scholarships?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
56312 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:16 pm to
Women's sports.
As far as black baseball players - there either going pro or playing other sports. It's why Cador went to meet with MLB commish about it.
Northern schools do care about baseball but until the season is pushed back which the southern schools don't want, it will never emerge as viable up there with the weather being the major factor. I really think if they went to wood bats college baseball would become a lot more credible. The new draft rules are also having an impact on some players choosing college over MLB until more loopholes are exploited.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

It's hard to understand how LSU fans can't grasp that 95% of colleges don't give a shite about college baseball.


I'm not saying fans need to give a shite about baseball.

Fans don't go to swimming/diving meets very often, or crew, or Tennnis but they all get scholarships.

I'm not arguing to put the sport on TV more, I'm arguing that our students deserve scholarships in every sport. And they need enough to field a team plus backups.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27882 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

It's hard to understand how LSU fans can't grasp that 95% of colleges don't give a shite about college baseball.


and you don't think that scholarship limits in baseball have anything to do with it?

Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80542 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

and you don't think that scholarship limits in baseball have anything to do with it?


More complete scholarships would just make MLB teams pay more.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 4/22/13 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

The sport is primarily white players, do you think if it were primarily black players it would be different?

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