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Rex
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


I agree with souldog... you're incoherent.

Hard to argue against your points when you can't keep them consistent.






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Newbomb Turk
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


Ladies and gentlemen, if you've ever doubted that liberalism is a f*cking mind disease, I present to you the moronic and retarded ramblings of Rex.

Rex, all kidding aside, gets some serious f*cking professional help. You are one truly f*cked-in-the-head individual.






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Wolfhound45
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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Are those who agree with Rex delusional?


FIFY







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LSUnKaty
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


What does "USA" stand for again?

Did the colonies have the right to secede from England?
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FAQ: Why was my thread anchored (or deleted)?

...

2. The subject of the thread is cut off. This is a problem that has been popping up a lot lately. A user will post a subject such as:

"The key to winning the game is..."

or

"I am about to get torn to shreds but I think that"

For whatever reasons, the user cut the subject off and is requiring that the reader click on the thread to find out what the point of the thread is. We would rather the main idea of the thread to be inside the subject.


3. Rex posted it






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udtiger
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


No.

1) Constitution does not prohibit secession.

2) The pledge is to the republic for which it [the flag] stands.






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TerryDawg03
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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Did the colonies have the right to secede from England?


Apples and oranges. Colonies of an empire =\= States in a union.






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Wolfhound45
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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3. Rex posted it








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Wolfhound45
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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Apples and oranges. Colonies of an empire =\= States in a union.


Some would make the argument that the states are now colonies of an empire.

Regardless, you do not understand the term "states" or "united" very well. The states "united" to form a central government with limited powers and responsibilities. Not what we have now.






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LSUnKaty
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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At what point did this nation become "indivisible"?
The nation remains indivisible as long as the The Republic (for which the flag stands) stays true to it's original founding ideals - such as, liberty and justice for all.
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...mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Whether such "abuses and usurpations" exist at any given time may be debated, but the right of mankind to choose its own form of government and thereby its own destiny can never be denied.






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Rex
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


Which act of the North violated the principles which have since been expressed in the Pledge of Allegiance? Did those principles only arise after a defeat in the Civil War?




This post was edited on 4/19 at 8:23 am


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Homesick Tiger
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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Rex


Who do you despise more, southerners or terrorists?






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TerryDawg03
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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Regardless, you do not understand the term "states" or "united" very well. The states "united" to form a central government with limited powers and responsibilities. Not what we have now.


I understand the terms well and agree with the above statement, which actually argues my original point. The War Between the States was fought in an attempt to remove the right to succession and strengthen the federal government. Lincoln was a protege of Henry Clay, an advocate of big government.






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TerryDawg03
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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Which act of the North violated the principles which have since been expressed in the Pledge of Allegiance? Did those principles only arise after a defeat in the Civil War?


In which governing document do we find the pledge?






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Wolfhound45
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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I understand the terms well and agree with the above statement, which actually argues my original point. The War Between the States was fought in an attempt to remove the right to succession and strengthen the federal government. Lincoln was a protege of Henry Clay, an advocate of big government.




Just finished reading "The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War" by Thomas DiLorenzo.

Eye opening to say the least.






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BCSmess
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


sir, if you hate they way us southern folk feel about the history of our states and display it with respect.....why do you stay here ????





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Mike da Tigah
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


America was founded on rebellion and the right to self government. Maybe it is you who truly is the hypocrite, or maybe you just like to conveniently forget that part.







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moneyg
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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So, it's meaningless except as some feel-good group exercise?



Are you suggesting that it is some sort of contractual promise?






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LSUnKaty
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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Which act of the North violated the principles which have since been expressed in the Pledge of Allegiance? Did those principles only arise after a defeat in the Civil War?
You asked
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Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites
That right exists regardless of whether you think the North violated any principles.

So they voicing the pledge. Why should they be considered hypocrites for then defending a right that the Republic they have pledge to acknowledged from it's founding?






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Rex
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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So they voicing the pledge. Why should they be considered hypocrites for then defending a right that the Republic they have pledge to acknowledged from it's founding?

Care to reword that? It's such poor grammar I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make.






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Rex
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re: Are those who defend the CSA's "right to secede" hypocrites


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Are you suggesting that it is some sort of contractual promise?

No, but it is a PLEDGE. So, is it meaningless except as some feel-good group exercise?






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