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re: Dell Demps
Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:10 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:10 am to Fun Bunch
This thread has epic amounts of fail in it:
1) Wanting to keep Okafor/Ariza should get you banned. Let's pay an aging, average, unathletic C 14mil and a SF that can't even see court time for the WASHINGTON WIZARDS 7mil.
2) People bagging on Jack cause he doesn't start is foolish. He finishes every game and plays 30+ minutes most nights.
3) Monty Williams admitted that they let Jack go as a courtesy to Jack. They knew that Captain Jack wasn't in their long term plans and was going to have hard time seeing minutes this season (expecting EG10 to be healthy at the time and knowing that we'd be playing youth to evaluate them) and let him move on for his sake, especially being a contract year.
4) Though Anderson is slumping lately, we gave up peanuts in a S&T and he is one of our most valuable assets still because of his contract.
5) The Lopez signing was an experiment as we have team options in years 2,3. again, he's still a tradable asset, just read the boards. When Gasol for Anderson bullcrap was being thrown around, the Lakers fans actually wanted us to throw in Lopez and/or Vasquez to sweeten the pot.
6) Vasquez could likely fetch us a 1st round pick in this year's draft. Q-Pon would be lucky to fetch a high 2nd.
7) Jason Smith/Willie Green for Songalia/Brackins, enough said.
8) Scouting overseas to find the likes of Brian Roberts / Gustavo Ayon.
9) The Marcus Thornton thing was a disaster of epic proportions. However, the blame could hardly be laid at the feet of Dell Demps. Monty Williams essentially buried an asset that should have fetched us back legitimate assets in return on the bench and killed his trade value. Not only did he bury him, we didn't have Tyreke Evans playing in front of him, we had Marco freaking Belinelli and Willie Green. Don't think I'll ever understand the handling of that situation.
10) There was definitely two bad moves though by Demps. The first was Collison for Ariza. How you have a young asset like DC coming off the year he had and all you can end up with is Trevor Ariza is beyond me. That first CP3 trade with the Rockets/Lakers was god-awful. Even with the EG10 drama to deal with, it's STILL better than that first package.
Bottom line: Dell Demps has managed to rebuild a terrible situation way ahead of schedule and caught a few breaks along the way. We suddenly have cap space and another high lottery pick with loads of young talent instead of an aging/overpaid roster. You are downright crazy if you don't think that at least 20 of the 30 NBA teams would steal this dude from us right now if they could.
1) Wanting to keep Okafor/Ariza should get you banned. Let's pay an aging, average, unathletic C 14mil and a SF that can't even see court time for the WASHINGTON WIZARDS 7mil.
2) People bagging on Jack cause he doesn't start is foolish. He finishes every game and plays 30+ minutes most nights.
3) Monty Williams admitted that they let Jack go as a courtesy to Jack. They knew that Captain Jack wasn't in their long term plans and was going to have hard time seeing minutes this season (expecting EG10 to be healthy at the time and knowing that we'd be playing youth to evaluate them) and let him move on for his sake, especially being a contract year.
4) Though Anderson is slumping lately, we gave up peanuts in a S&T and he is one of our most valuable assets still because of his contract.
5) The Lopez signing was an experiment as we have team options in years 2,3. again, he's still a tradable asset, just read the boards. When Gasol for Anderson bullcrap was being thrown around, the Lakers fans actually wanted us to throw in Lopez and/or Vasquez to sweeten the pot.
6) Vasquez could likely fetch us a 1st round pick in this year's draft. Q-Pon would be lucky to fetch a high 2nd.
7) Jason Smith/Willie Green for Songalia/Brackins, enough said.
8) Scouting overseas to find the likes of Brian Roberts / Gustavo Ayon.
9) The Marcus Thornton thing was a disaster of epic proportions. However, the blame could hardly be laid at the feet of Dell Demps. Monty Williams essentially buried an asset that should have fetched us back legitimate assets in return on the bench and killed his trade value. Not only did he bury him, we didn't have Tyreke Evans playing in front of him, we had Marco freaking Belinelli and Willie Green. Don't think I'll ever understand the handling of that situation.
10) There was definitely two bad moves though by Demps. The first was Collison for Ariza. How you have a young asset like DC coming off the year he had and all you can end up with is Trevor Ariza is beyond me. That first CP3 trade with the Rockets/Lakers was god-awful. Even with the EG10 drama to deal with, it's STILL better than that first package.
Bottom line: Dell Demps has managed to rebuild a terrible situation way ahead of schedule and caught a few breaks along the way. We suddenly have cap space and another high lottery pick with loads of young talent instead of an aging/overpaid roster. You are downright crazy if you don't think that at least 20 of the 30 NBA teams would steal this dude from us right now if they could.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:25 am to ShamelessPel
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1) Wanting to keep Okafor/Ariza should get you banned. Let's pay an aging, average, unathletic C 14mil and a SF that can't even see court time for the WASHINGTON WIZARDS 7mil
I love that some guy that has been on the site for a couple of days is calling for people to be banned cause he doesn't agree with them. Not sure reading a forum is going to be much fun for him.
Let me reset this so everybody might understand where I am coming from. The highest paid player on the team this year didn't play a minute for the Hornets. Neither did the 6th highest paid player. The Hornets paid 17m to guys that didn't play for them at all. Me proposing that I'd have rather have used that money on guys that actually play on the team just makes sense to me.
The future obligations are worrisome, but now they are trade bait, same as last year. Except now they are expiring trade bait. There is already talk of a Okafor for Stoudamire trade in the works. shite moves on..
Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:54 am to ShamelessPel
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9) The Marcus Thornton thing was a disaster of epic proportions. However, the blame could hardly be laid at the feet of Dell Demps. Monty Williams essentially buried an asset that should have fetched us back legitimate assets in return on the bench and killed his trade value. Not only did he bury him, we didn't have Tyreke Evans playing in front of him, we had Marco freaking Belinelli and Willie Green. Don't think I'll ever understand the handling of that situation.
10) There was definitely two bad moves though by Demps. The first was Collison for Ariza. How you have a young asset like DC coming off the year he had and all you can end up with is Trevor Ariza is beyond me. That first CP3 trade with the Rockets/Lakers was god-awful. Even with the EG10 drama to deal with, it's STILL better than that first package.
I lay these two at least partially at CP3's feet.
Besides MT5 being on Monty's bad side, he was supposedly on CP3's bad side as well, which helped speed his exit in favor of Landry.
The Ariza trade was specifically pitched to CP3 as a way to make him happy since he was pissing and moaning about the roster at the time Monty and Demps were hired. Collison went out and Ariza came in, making CP3 happy, along with dumping Posey's shite contract on Indiana.
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