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Rap Music - Why the Antagonistic Attitude toward the Poor?

Posted on 4/11/13 at 8:30 pm
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 8:30 pm
So, we have a larger percentage of blacks living in poverty than any other race/ethnicity in America.

Poverty in the United States

quote:

Poverty and race/ethnicity
The US Census declared that in 2010 15.1% of the general population lived in poverty:

9.9% of all non-Hispanic white persons
12.1% of all Asian persons
26.6% of all Hispanic persons (of any race)
27.4% of all black persons.



This presents a weird conundrum that confuses me every time I hear it. For a couple examples of what I'm talking about, I'll pull from two currently popular rap songs.

Chief Keef - "Love Sosa"

quote:

You boys ain't making no noise
Ya'll know I'm a grown boy
Your clique full of broke boys
God ya'll some broke boys
God ya'll some broke boys
We GBE dope boys,
We got lots of dough boy


2-Chainz - "I'm Different"

quote:

Hair long, money long
Me and broke ****s we don't get along
Hair long, money long
Me and broke ****s we don't get along


And, how much of this derision influences crime (e.g., robberies) among young people? No way to really prove it, but I have to think this attitude coming through the musical format affects the psyche of its listeners, especially the youth.
Posted by Buddy Garrity
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 8:36 pm to
this thread would be very interesting on the OT

I have no idea about your question, it has always confused me as well
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 8:38 pm to
They hated being poor. Now that they're rich they're continuing to hate the poor. Kinda like a, U Mad Im Stylin now sort of deal. Making fun or putting down others who haven't made it yet.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4839 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

They hated being poor. Now that they're rich they're continuing to hate the poor. Kinda like a, U Mad Im Stylin now sort of deal. Making fun or putting down others who haven't made it yet.


Ok, but it seems like feelings of empathy would be more appropriate.

That's kinda like being obese, then losing weight and going around ridiculing others that are obese. Just doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21590 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 8:48 pm to
quote:


That's kinda like being obese, then losing weight and going around ridiculing others that are obese. Just doesn't make sense to me.


Eh, not really. You are born into poverty. You aren't born into obesity.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4839 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Eh, not really. You are born into poverty. You aren't born into obesity.


I see your point, although there can be genetic factors that contribute to obesity. Also, parents are making most of the decisions on what a kid eats early on. But, I don't want to get lost in the semantics of the comparison.

My point here was more about having empathy for another's struggles. Not necessarily why one is struggling.
Posted by Mugen
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:02 pm to
Money does wonders
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:22 pm to
I don't think it's about antagonism to the poor -- just hear me out. In an ethnic group in which life at or below the poverty line is such an epidemic, it stands to reason that success is measured by one's ability to transcend that station in life. Thus success is primarily measured in terms of material wealth. In writing lyrics like this it's less about antagonism and more about an assertion of self, motivation, and ultimately success. Additionally, by affirming their wealth they are essentially saying that they are the best at what they do and elevating themselves above their peers/competition. Just my thoughts.
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