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re: After giving Promet[h]eus a shot on cable
Posted on 4/10/13 at 3:31 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 4/10/13 at 3:31 pm to Freauxzen
The devil is in the details, they just skimped on them regarding the ooz and it keeps Prometheus from being great. Doesn't make it a piece of poo
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 3:32 pm
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 3:38 pm to DelU249
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The devil is in the details, they just skimped on them regarding the ooz and it keeps Prometheus from being great. Doesn't make it a piece of poo
Like I said before to each his own. For me, it undermines the entire intention of the genre itself to leave something so open and problematic. There's a difference between openness and a gaping plothole.
Therefore, poo.
Also, your comment was that someone who liked John Carter has an invalidated opinion about science fiction. Them's fightin' words.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 3:48 pm to DelU249
This might seem crazy or just plain stupid to you, but I do not consider Star Wars science fiction. It is a fantasy story that happens to take place in space.
This is a fair description of what science fiction should be imo.
In the earlier stages of science fiction(1920's-1940's), the genre was about a hopeful view of what the future would bring in general, with some examples that contained warnings inspired by the two world wars. As time went on, science fiction turned darker predominently with dystopian works such as 1984, Brave New World, etc.
It is still generally about speculation of how humanity or humans would react given some change of circumstance or circumstances. I have never been huge into Star Trek, but the impression that I have is that Star Trek does this mostly through technology.
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Science Fiction is particular in that it has to make OUR world seem familiar and new at the time by allowing for some specific element( or elements) to change it.
This is a fair description of what science fiction should be imo.
In the earlier stages of science fiction(1920's-1940's), the genre was about a hopeful view of what the future would bring in general, with some examples that contained warnings inspired by the two world wars. As time went on, science fiction turned darker predominently with dystopian works such as 1984, Brave New World, etc.
It is still generally about speculation of how humanity or humans would react given some change of circumstance or circumstances. I have never been huge into Star Trek, but the impression that I have is that Star Trek does this mostly through technology.
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:11 am to DelU249
I know I'm late to this thread, but I wanted to catch back up with it...
See, I didn't need an explanation of the ooze. Not even a little bit. I know enough about it to know that it's some evil, weird shite. It's bad enough that it can frick up one dude and turn him into a zombie thing, or make some other dude impregnate a chick and she has an organism inside her that grows exponentially fast, or that it can create weird snake-like creatures that can frick shite up, etc. The black ooze is some bad shite..that's the bottom line and all we need to know. And Janek (Idris Elba) made that crystal clear for us:
Some people may want to know what the ooze is, what it does specifically, why/how it was created, etc. But you certainly don't need to know any of that, because it isn't relevant to the movie when it comes down to it. All you need to know is that it's just some bad shite...that's it...time to go home. Just like he said.
I don't understand how not knowing what the ooze is would ruin the movie for people. To me, that's almost like asking too much from the film. They showed you several times that the ooze causes bad shite to happen...THAT'S the important part. Not what it's made of or why it was created. And those are all things that could be expounded upon in future installments.
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The devil is in the details, they just skimped on them regarding the ooz and it keeps Prometheus from being great.
See, I didn't need an explanation of the ooze. Not even a little bit. I know enough about it to know that it's some evil, weird shite. It's bad enough that it can frick up one dude and turn him into a zombie thing, or make some other dude impregnate a chick and she has an organism inside her that grows exponentially fast, or that it can create weird snake-like creatures that can frick shite up, etc. The black ooze is some bad shite..that's the bottom line and all we need to know. And Janek (Idris Elba) made that crystal clear for us:
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Where the hell you going, doc? You know what this place is? Those Engineers, this ain't their home. It's an installation. Maybe even military. They put it out here in the middle of nowhere because they're not stupid enough to make weapons of mass destruction on their own doorstep. That's what all that shite is in those vases. They made it here. It got out, turned on them. The end. It's time for us to go home.
Some people may want to know what the ooze is, what it does specifically, why/how it was created, etc. But you certainly don't need to know any of that, because it isn't relevant to the movie when it comes down to it. All you need to know is that it's just some bad shite...that's it...time to go home. Just like he said.
I don't understand how not knowing what the ooze is would ruin the movie for people. To me, that's almost like asking too much from the film. They showed you several times that the ooze causes bad shite to happen...THAT'S the important part. Not what it's made of or why it was created. And those are all things that could be expounded upon in future installments.
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