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re: What are you telling your kids about getting a degree/career?
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:03 pm to ZereauxSum
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:03 pm to ZereauxSum
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I also think kids in k-12 need WAY more exposure to career options
agreed. I plan on selling my kid off to farmers, mechanics, and volunteer centers during summer breaks.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:11 pm to C
^^^Yup
I'll emphasis education (math, science, literacy, and critical thinking) with my kids, but I'll also have them do trades and stuff like sewing. I'm def. determined to get them inundated in entrepreneurship.
I'll emphasis education (math, science, literacy, and critical thinking) with my kids, but I'll also have them do trades and stuff like sewing. I'm def. determined to get them inundated in entrepreneurship.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:18 pm to C
I agree with this:
I strongly disagree with this:
First, there's no question that having a bachelor's degree is still important. Probably more important than it ever has been. Have you checked the unemployment #s for people under 30 with HS degree only? They are staggeringly high. For all the doom-and-gloom about recent college grads unemployment rates, they're still below 5%. The fact is, with a high school degree these days it is exceedingly difficult to get a stable, long-term job with growth prospects. Jobs that a HS grad could've gotten 20 years ago are now going to college grads, and this isn't reversing any time soon. In other words, I think this is a fundamental shift, and not the temporary result of the current weak ongoing job market, although obviously I could be wrong about that.
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Second, despite this, there's no question that, as C said, over 1/3 of people are worse off for not getting a job straight out of high school. Those people are dropouts. The real economic problem, as I see it, is people who end up with student loans and 2 or 3 wasted years with nothing to show for it. This is doubly true if they were suckered into an expensive for-profit college.
Also, a more minor point, focusing on 30 year olds ignores the fact that, over the long run, the college grads will make more money. No question that, at age 30, a janitor who's been working for 12 years will have made more $ than a freshly graduated lawyer or doctor. By age 40 that will no longer be true.
And as to this:
I can only say
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I bet there are +30% of the people under the age of the 30 that would have been better off financially if they would have entered the job market directly rather than going to college.
I strongly disagree with this:
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Obviously the significance of a bachelor's degree holds very little merit.
First, there's no question that having a bachelor's degree is still important. Probably more important than it ever has been. Have you checked the unemployment #s for people under 30 with HS degree only? They are staggeringly high. For all the doom-and-gloom about recent college grads unemployment rates, they're still below 5%. The fact is, with a high school degree these days it is exceedingly difficult to get a stable, long-term job with growth prospects. Jobs that a HS grad could've gotten 20 years ago are now going to college grads, and this isn't reversing any time soon. In other words, I think this is a fundamental shift, and not the temporary result of the current weak ongoing job market, although obviously I could be wrong about that.
LINK
Second, despite this, there's no question that, as C said, over 1/3 of people are worse off for not getting a job straight out of high school. Those people are dropouts. The real economic problem, as I see it, is people who end up with student loans and 2 or 3 wasted years with nothing to show for it. This is doubly true if they were suckered into an expensive for-profit college.
Also, a more minor point, focusing on 30 year olds ignores the fact that, over the long run, the college grads will make more money. No question that, at age 30, a janitor who's been working for 12 years will have made more $ than a freshly graduated lawyer or doctor. By age 40 that will no longer be true.
And as to this:
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Yeah like if my wife had never gone to college, I wouldn't have met her and married her, thus I would be better off financially...
I can only say
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