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Beverly Hills Cop, Coming to America, Trading Places, 48 hrs...
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:17 am
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:17 am
Someone quoted Coming to America in another thread and got me thinking.....
The above were good and funny movies. and if Nutty Professor or Harlem Nights are your bag then throw them in too along with Golden Child and best defense. Murphy was perfect in these movies. Not to mention SNL.
but for each one of the enjoyable ones he has about 4-5 that are just garbage.
sooooooooo...what's the deal?
1) can someone not write for Murphy anymore?
2) can he not write anymore?
3) has he ceased to be funny?
i know you can say the same thing about sandler but sandler wasn't for everyone to begin with. some people outright hate him.
but murphy was almost universally loved and can arguably called one of the top 10 or 5 or 3 greatest stand ups of all time depending on who you ask.
someone explain to me why i'm not enjoying eddie murphy movies well into my golden years....
I want answers now or i want them eventually!!!
The above were good and funny movies. and if Nutty Professor or Harlem Nights are your bag then throw them in too along with Golden Child and best defense. Murphy was perfect in these movies. Not to mention SNL.
but for each one of the enjoyable ones he has about 4-5 that are just garbage.
sooooooooo...what's the deal?
1) can someone not write for Murphy anymore?
2) can he not write anymore?
3) has he ceased to be funny?
i know you can say the same thing about sandler but sandler wasn't for everyone to begin with. some people outright hate him.
but murphy was almost universally loved and can arguably called one of the top 10 or 5 or 3 greatest stand ups of all time depending on who you ask.
someone explain to me why i'm not enjoying eddie murphy movies well into my golden years....
I want answers now or i want them eventually!!!
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:19 am to TDTGodfather
after he got busted trying to frick a tranny, he started making kids movies mostly
he's expanded it somewhat (that heist movie, for example), but this happens with actors often
he's expanded it somewhat (that heist movie, for example), but this happens with actors often
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:19 am to TDTGodfather
Sold out, went cleaner, and started taking crappy children's movies roles.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:20 am to TDTGodfather
Life was his last funny movie. Coincidentally Life was Martin Lawrence's last funny movie as well.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:32 am to TDTGodfather
Realistically, Eddie Murphy was a cross between Richard Pryor and Steve Martin, coming slightly behind their peak stand-up years, and probably a better actor in his own right than either.
Richard had a fairly narrow range where he could be funny. He also rarely stretched outside of his comfort zone (although he proved on network television during the 70s that, even severely caught up in drug abuse he could be both funny and clean).
Martin was great, early on, then faded down the stretch as an actor. He also, generally needed a strong support cast (although he was the mule in The Jerk).
I think with a funny lead, it runs out - and it runs out more quickly than for a dramatic or action lead = it ran out for Chevy (more or less after Fletch), it ran out for Martin (more or less after Planes, Trains and Automobiles, although he tried like hell with L.A. Story and Father of the Bride).
Murphy tried to hard to avoid stereotyping, and I think that hurt him. Once he started cashing in with the kid-oriented films, he was probably done for the older generation. Also, when he stopped doing stand-up, he probably started losing his timing edge right there - in comedy, timing is everything.
Just my $0.02.
Richard had a fairly narrow range where he could be funny. He also rarely stretched outside of his comfort zone (although he proved on network television during the 70s that, even severely caught up in drug abuse he could be both funny and clean).
Martin was great, early on, then faded down the stretch as an actor. He also, generally needed a strong support cast (although he was the mule in The Jerk).
I think with a funny lead, it runs out - and it runs out more quickly than for a dramatic or action lead = it ran out for Chevy (more or less after Fletch), it ran out for Martin (more or less after Planes, Trains and Automobiles, although he tried like hell with L.A. Story and Father of the Bride).
Murphy tried to hard to avoid stereotyping, and I think that hurt him. Once he started cashing in with the kid-oriented films, he was probably done for the older generation. Also, when he stopped doing stand-up, he probably started losing his timing edge right there - in comedy, timing is everything.
Just my $0.02.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:32 pm to TDTGodfather
IIRC, somewhere around Beverly Hills Cop III, he started getting creative control from the studios.
Harlem Nights in underrated IMHO.
Harlem Nights in underrated IMHO.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:41 pm to TDTGodfather
Unpopular opinion: Eddie Murphy is wildly overrated as a standup.
Murphy is a great comedic actor, one of the best, but he's reliant on the quality of his writing room. And once he stopped relying on his writers and started thinking he was a great writer himself... bad things happened. He's also kinda famous for being difficult to work with, which made his fall more rapid, as people weren't really willing to help him out in the business. There was some people enjoying his fall.
Murphy is a great comedic actor, one of the best, but he's reliant on the quality of his writing room. And once he stopped relying on his writers and started thinking he was a great writer himself... bad things happened. He's also kinda famous for being difficult to work with, which made his fall more rapid, as people weren't really willing to help him out in the business. There was some people enjoying his fall.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:41 pm to TDTGodfather
I've talked about Eddie before at home.....Eddie stopped being funny when Eddie couldn't make fun of himself and had to be the "cool" leading actor.
It started some in Beverly HC but his career for me ended with Harlem Nights. That's when Eddie became unfunny.
Same thing happens to nearly all comedic actors. Think about it.
It started some in Beverly HC but his career for me ended with Harlem Nights. That's when Eddie became unfunny.
Same thing happens to nearly all comedic actors. Think about it.
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