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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:52 pm to
The hits for the X299 platform disaster just keep coming for Intel, now apparently almost ALL motherboards have serious VRM overheating issues.

So they've went from Kaby Lake having serious heating issues with overclocking at all, to a 20-40% power draw increase over Broadwell for the equiv CPU, with even worse heat issues that AIO coolers can't handle 4.6GHz OC's or higher to now having motherboards with serious VRM issues.

It's nice to see Intel take back the heat/power hog title from AMD though.

Intel should have never moved the launch up, clearly not only were they not ready, motherboard manufacturers weren't either.

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Measuring the front and the back of his AORUS X299 Gaming 3 board, the temperatures read 84.2 and 105.9 degrees Celcius. The heatsinks on the motherboards apparently are not enough to keep the MOSFET temperatures in check. He points out that his ASUS X299 Prime is even worse, hitting those temperatures in just under 10 minutes.

This is made even worse by the fact that this is only at 4.6GHz at 1.2V, which is very moderate for a 24/7 overclock. If it is reading as 105.9 degrees at the back of the board, the temperature of the MOSFET could actually be ~120 degrees Celcius. That is because there is a PCB in between that insulates it somewhat, hence the 105.9 degrees Celcius reading. Also, Der8auer states that this was after 15 minutes of Prime95 non-AVX load. If he used a CPU stress program that actually uses AVX, the temperatures will be even higher.

Apparently, the Skylake-X CPUs are drawing too much for only a single 8-pin feeding it. This results in higher temperatures and can even burn some power supply cables. With the thermocouple probe, the temperature on the 8-pin cable read 65C on an open air test bench. Once inside a 40C or higher case in the summer, those temperatures can climb up to 80 or 90C, which is dangerous.

That is why according to him, he cannot recommend ANY X299 motherboard with only a single 8-pin PSU connector. He suggests waiting a month or two for manufacturers to release new boards with better designs that fixes these issues. It does not matter whether it is Gigabyte, ASUS, ASRock, MSI, etc. No matter how good the VRM design claim is, if it only has an 8-pin power connecter feeding the CPU, stay away from it.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 10:57 pm
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44130 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:58 pm to
Yikes
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7309 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:11 am to
X299 is a disaster. Looks like I'm waiting to upgrade yet again. Hopefully amd can get the clock speeds competitive soon because it doesn't look like Intel will be delivering a worthwhile cpu for at least a year.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:13 am to
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So they've went from Kaby Lake having serious heating issues with overclocking at all, to a 20-40% power draw increase over Broadwell for the equiv CPU, with even worse heat issues that AIO coolers can't handle 4.6GHz OC's or higher to now having motherboards with serious VRM issues.

Post the link but I believe you.

Going that high requires pretty nice voltages on a package that large. You also can't compare AMD's offerings when they are nearly hardware locked at 4.0-4.1GHZ. You get to certain points where OC'ing PAST a certain point requires a huge voltage push. A lot of DR involved.

But I do agree, X299 is a disaster. Not really the chipset but the platform as a whole. The CPU situation is retarded.

Have you seen the leaked VEGA benchmarks? Sort of disappointed if true. A GTX 1080 is beating it. I do think this is not the flagship, I hope and pray.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:24 am to
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This is made even worse by the fact that this is only at 4.6GHz at 1.2V

This really does not make any sense.

1.2V is nothing and has nothing to do with the platform but vendors trying to cheap out, or maybe something else? WTF is this.
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So they've went from Kaby Lake having serious heating issues with overclocking at all, to a 20-40% power draw increase over Broadwell for the equiv CPU

Some of that is because the memory controller needing a higher clock, the package needs to be higher clocked as a whole to keep up with faster RAM speeds. Can't really compare Broadwell and Sky/Kaby Lake on power draw.

Edt: Sorry just reading most of your post. Was driving earlier.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 9:26 am
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