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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15534 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:20 pm to
10g was mostly for the lulz, I think. EPB was the first to offer 1g fiber in the US for residential customers. They advertise Chattanooga as gig city because of that. Comcast decided a year or two ago to offer 2g in Chattanooga at some ridiculous price to rub it in EPB's face, like $500 install and $500 a month. So EPB decided to offer 10g to residential customers for a cheaper rate than Comcast's 2g.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65860 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:52 pm to
The hits for the X299 platform disaster just keep coming for Intel, now apparently almost ALL motherboards have serious VRM overheating issues.

So they've went from Kaby Lake having serious heating issues with overclocking at all, to a 20-40% power draw increase over Broadwell for the equiv CPU, with even worse heat issues that AIO coolers can't handle 4.6GHz OC's or higher to now having motherboards with serious VRM issues.

It's nice to see Intel take back the heat/power hog title from AMD though.

Intel should have never moved the launch up, clearly not only were they not ready, motherboard manufacturers weren't either.

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Measuring the front and the back of his AORUS X299 Gaming 3 board, the temperatures read 84.2 and 105.9 degrees Celcius. The heatsinks on the motherboards apparently are not enough to keep the MOSFET temperatures in check. He points out that his ASUS X299 Prime is even worse, hitting those temperatures in just under 10 minutes.

This is made even worse by the fact that this is only at 4.6GHz at 1.2V, which is very moderate for a 24/7 overclock. If it is reading as 105.9 degrees at the back of the board, the temperature of the MOSFET could actually be ~120 degrees Celcius. That is because there is a PCB in between that insulates it somewhat, hence the 105.9 degrees Celcius reading. Also, Der8auer states that this was after 15 minutes of Prime95 non-AVX load. If he used a CPU stress program that actually uses AVX, the temperatures will be even higher.

Apparently, the Skylake-X CPUs are drawing too much for only a single 8-pin feeding it. This results in higher temperatures and can even burn some power supply cables. With the thermocouple probe, the temperature on the 8-pin cable read 65C on an open air test bench. Once inside a 40C or higher case in the summer, those temperatures can climb up to 80 or 90C, which is dangerous.

That is why according to him, he cannot recommend ANY X299 motherboard with only a single 8-pin PSU connector. He suggests waiting a month or two for manufacturers to release new boards with better designs that fixes these issues. It does not matter whether it is Gigabyte, ASUS, ASRock, MSI, etc. No matter how good the VRM design claim is, if it only has an 8-pin power connecter feeding the CPU, stay away from it.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 10:57 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:07 am to
quote:

They advertise Chattanooga as gig city because of that.

Oh you are in Chattanooga?

I love Chattanooga. Awesome City.
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