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Saw Oz the Great and Powerful
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:00 am
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:00 am
Really great family film. Best in a long time, even.
But the nerd in me can't help but be bugged by the plot holes it creates for the original.
Like. . .how does Dorothy meet up with the wizard in Kansas before the storm?
He clearly tells her at the end that he had been trying to get back since he got to Oz. . .and had been unsuccessful.
But the nerd in me can't help but be bugged by the plot holes it creates for the original.
Like. . .how does Dorothy meet up with the wizard in Kansas before the storm?
He clearly tells her at the end that he had been trying to get back since he got to Oz. . .and had been unsuccessful.
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Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:21 am to Roaad
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Like. . .how does Dorothy meet up with the wizard in Kansas before the storm?
He clearly tells her at the end that he had been trying to get back since he got to Oz. . .and had been unsuccessful.
Dorothy and Oz meet in Kansas? Are you thinking it was the same storm that put them in Oz?
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:25 am to Roaad
Haven't seen the new movie, but in the original, that guy in Kansas wasn't the Wizard, just as the farmhands weren't from Oz. Dorothy dreamed of the Oz characters looking like people she knew.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:41 am to Roaad
I think you're miss remembering the original a little
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:48 am to Tiger1242
Small spoilers.....
First they made some really cheesy lines that I wish they would have avoided. Mila was not good in this movie at all. Just was not the role for her. As far as with regards to the Wizard of Oz. I like the new characters they had but now think about how there were no china dolls in the original. I thought it did well for being a prequel to such a classic. If they were to do it all over again, remove cheesy lines and recast Mila.
First they made some really cheesy lines that I wish they would have avoided. Mila was not good in this movie at all. Just was not the role for her. As far as with regards to the Wizard of Oz. I like the new characters they had but now think about how there were no china dolls in the original. I thought it did well for being a prequel to such a classic. If they were to do it all over again, remove cheesy lines and recast Mila.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:51 am to swamie
quote:yes.
Dorothy and Oz meet in Kansas?
Right before the twister took dorothy
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:54 am to Roaad
He had a traveling magic show. She talked to him about her Toto problem with the mean old bat.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:55 am to Master of Sinanju
quote:That gets obliterated with the new movie.
Dorothy dreamed of the Oz characters looking like people she knew.
With Oz, you find out that the story is real. And therefore not in Dorothy's head.
Oz even mentioned the Gale family in the beginning of OtGaP.
And if the same twister took them both, the story makes less sense. You see the Scarecrow and the Wicked Witch of the West being made in OtGaP, but Dorothy meets them both very quickly.
Oz spends most of the movie fighting the WW of the East, but she gets killed right when Dorothy lands.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:56 am to SaintEB
quote:yup
He had a traveling magic show. She talked to him about her Toto problem with the mean old bat.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:04 am to Roaad
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With Oz, you find out that the story is real. And therefore not in Dorothy's head.
Is the new movie a sequel to the musical, or just set in the book timeline? In the books, Oz was real, with characters that traveled back and forth between the worlds.
Maybe the Wizard's back story matches up better there.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:07 am to Master of Sinanju
quote:Prequel
Is the new movie a sequel to the musical, or just set in the book timeline?
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:19 am to Roaad
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I guess I'm wondering if the two movies are related -- or does this movie start a brand new thing?
They are definitely related. And I think that it's only through everyone's love of Baum's work and the original classic that this movie would be made. And it takes great pains setting up the story that Baum wrote, "The Wizard of Oz." So, it makes perfect sense that you could see both movies together. I mean, I don't think that they will exactly rhyme -- there will be some inconsistencies -- but it should be a fun experience.
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There is a reference to a John Gale in this movie.
Dorothy Gale is the name of Dorothy in the story, "The Wizard of Oz." So I think [screenwriter] David [Lindsay-Abaire] in one of his drafts was having a little bit of fun. Trying to suggest, perhaps, to the astute listener that when Annie [Michele Williams] didn't marry the Wizard, she may have gone off and married John Gale. And perhaps his daughter, years from now, could have been Dorothy.
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So John Gale is unique to this movie, right? He'd not in the Baum books? I couldn't find a reference to him.
Yes, I believe so. I'm not certain. [Dorothy's parents] probably both died and little Dorothy was left with her Auntie Em.
Raimi interview
It's definitely not meant to occur at the same time. I think Oz is a real place, just Dorothy came back and believed it to be a dream.
She didn't actually meet Oz, she met Professor Marvel.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:22 am to LSUJuicer
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I like the new characters they had but now think about how there were no china dolls in the original.
They were in Baum's book.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:27 am to Roaad
This is a movie I am dying to see, but I never have time to go 
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:32 am to Roaad
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Really great family film
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:34 am to swamie
Victor Fleming, the writers, the studio, whatever 100% intended it to be a dream. I always found it to be an open door for the viewer to decide
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:36 am to Roaad
Only 6.9 on IMDB. Seems like movie ratings go down there over time, too.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:42 am to LSUJuicer
Spoiler below!!!!!!!
I didn't believe Mila Kunis as the evil witch at all. I thought she was terrible. Her makeup looked cheap, her face seemed soft and round, not sharp & angular like the WWW should look like. And when she tried to get pissed & scream, I just heard Meg Griffin's voice
Bad casting
I didn't believe Mila Kunis as the evil witch at all. I thought she was terrible. Her makeup looked cheap, her face seemed soft and round, not sharp & angular like the WWW should look like. And when she tried to get pissed & scream, I just heard Meg Griffin's voice
Bad casting Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:45 am to banone74
Agreed and that goes for the whole movie
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:52 am to TogaParty
Don't get your hopes too high? Mine were & I was dissapointed.
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