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Posted on 3/19/13 at 7:51 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 7:51 am to
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I just can't figure it out


It's popcorn and fairly well done. How much stuff has Clancy Brown done that's been bad?

Do I watch it over and over? No. Is it a decent action flick based on classic, foundational SciFi (I mean, Heinlein - how much better can you get?)? Yeah.

The other thing - occasionally it backfires when Hollywood talks down to the audience - just like Patton, fans of Starship Troopers have, generally, the opposite take than what the director intended, in both cases extolling the virtues of warriors, as opposed to the director's intended anti-war message.

Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150867 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 7:56 am to
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The other thing - occasionally it backfires when Hollywood talks down to the audience - just like Patton, fans of Starship Troopers have, generally, the opposite take than what the director intended, in both cases extolling the virtues of warriors, as opposed to the director's intended anti-war message.

Right. The whole movie is a satire, and is meant to be anti-war, like you said. But it ends up just being a "Rah rah, let's go 'Merica" kind of movie. I can guarantee you I love the movie for all of the reasons the director doesn't want me to.
This post was edited on 3/19/13 at 7:57 am
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37413 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:07 am to
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I just can't figure it out


Because it's actually a somewhat smart film wrapped in a giant bug alien movie with explosions.

In short, it's awesome.

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The other thing - occasionally it backfires when Hollywood talks down to the audience - just like Patton, fans of Starship Troopers have, generally, the opposite take than what the director intended, in both cases extolling the virtues of warriors, as opposed to the director's intended anti-war message


Bingo, and this is why the film flirts with brilliancy. I love it. I felt conflicted the entire time watching the film. To cheer or not to cheer?

It also doesn't take itself seriously, in effect, although the message is quite strong.

It's a film with a lot of layers. Verhoeven can be a great director when he wants to be.
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