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It's a pretty bad movie. One thing a lot of people forget is how inthe trailer they pretty much show you the end and I left the theater very underwhelmed. It's really a big screen version of a sci-fi channel movie which are fun to watch sometimes.

The book is fantastic, though. I wish the movie would have touched on the same themes.

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It's the only movie I've ever seen more than once in a theater. I saw it 4 times.

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I saw it in theaters twice. Went one day with my buddy (we skipped class), and we liked it so much we skipped another class the next day and went saw it again.

To the OP (FM), it's a fricking awesome movie...that's why you like it. It's the epirome of a mindless, over-the-top blockbuster-type movie. Everything is overdone on purpose, even the acting IMO (though there aren't "great" actors in it). It has blood, guts, violence, sex, tits, cheesiness, etc...it's a shitpile of awesome. The only thing it really went easy on was the language.

After this came out, and then Sleepy Hollow a couple years later, I figured CVD would be a fairly rising actor (not star), but he fizzled out with the quickness and ended up relegated to Starship Troopers 3.

Really the only thing that bothers me about this movie is when she's backing out the giant ship for the first time, there's clearly not enough room for the ship to clear the station, but then like two seconds later it's exiting at a whole other angle and it's fine. I'm not even sure why, but that bothered the shite out of me.

Oh, and Jeff fricking Hunter. Instantly hated that dude for obvious reasons. I guess fricking over Zack Morris wasn't good enough, so he had to frick over Rico too. What a cock.

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I guess fricking over Zack Morris wasn't good enough, so he had to frick over Rico too. What a cock

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Hahaha, i have always felt the same way.

frickin Jeff

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Right. The whole movie is a satire, and is meant to be anti-war, like you said. But it ends up just being a "Rah rah, let's go 'Merica" kind of movie. I can guarantee you I love the movie for all of the reasons the director doesn't want me to.

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Me, too.

About the only writer/director I would see eye-to-eye with is Milius.

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I just can't figure it out

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Because it's actually a somewhat smart film wrapped in a giant bug alien movie with explosions.

In short, it's awesome.

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The other thing - occasionally it backfires when Hollywood talks down to the audience - just like Patton, fans of Starship Troopers have, generally, the opposite take than what the director intended, in both cases extolling the virtues of warriors, as opposed to the director's intended anti-war message

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Bingo, and this is why the film flirts with brilliancy. I love it. I felt conflicted the entire time watching the film. To cheer or not to cheer?

It also doesn't take itself seriously, in effect, although the message is quite strong.

It's a film with a lot of layers. Verhoeven can be a great director when he wants to be.

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Bingo, and this is why the film flirts with brilliancy. I love it. I felt conflicted the entire time watching the film. To cheer or not to cheer?

It also doesn't take itself seriously, in effect, although the message is quite strong.

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Agreed. It's supposed to be over the top and stupid (to a point) because it's supposed to be showing everyone how mindless, bloody, etc. war (and America in a lot of ways) can be. But it's the same "hyperbole-ness" that makes it so good. They show people getting slaughtered, show scientists mutilating the enemy (even though the enemy isn't human, they're sentient), hell..even show kids "killing the enemy" when they're stepping on the bugs in the street, and then asks "Would you like to know more?" It does all that shite to drive the point home, but in effect we DO actually want to know more because that stuff is cool and awesome. As happy Gilmore would say, "Talk about your all time backfires.."

The film may accomplish all the high-minded stuff you guys say it does, but if so, it's coincidence.

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I'd bet flores is way better in bed than Carmen. Plus we all know fleet and infantry don't mix.

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Heres a fun fact: In the Book, Flores is a dude.

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The film may accomplish all the high-minded stuff you guys say it does, but if so, it's coincidence.

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No it really isn't:

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In the DVD commentary, Verhoeven states the film's message: "War makes fascists of us all." He evokes Nazi Germany—particularly through its use of fashion, iconography and propaganda—which he sees as a natural evolution of the post-World War II United States. "I've heard this film nicknamed All Quiet on the Final Frontier," he says, "which is actually not far from the truth." Edward Neumeier (who had previously worked with Verhoeven on RoboCop) broadly concurs, although he sees a satire on human history, rather than solely the United States. Since the filmmakers did not make these statements at the time of the film's release, viewers have interpreted it variously: as a satire, as a celebration of fascism or as a simple action film.[3]

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On the DVD commentary Verhoeven said I can tell you that the movie is in fact, in our opinion, stating that war makes fascists of us all.

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