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Gtothemoney 
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 10:49 am to mm2316)
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It annoys the hell out of me to hear fans say "Team XYZ needs to get rid of player/coach A", without realizing that in order for it to make sense to get rid of that player or coach, you would have to replace him with someone better; if not, it's just a waste and you're downgrading
What's a downgrade for us? We are lottery bound for the 2nd year straight. Is a new direction for a lottery team going to be the wrong direction?
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mm2316
What year did you graduate?
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tigerfan88 
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 10:58 am to Gtothemoney)
We should keep Monty for one more year, due to the injuries this year, plus the fact that our roster is still pretty pathetic when all is taken into account. Plus we've had alot of roster turnover in recent years and the team could really use some continuity, and you don't want to make Davis learn a bunch of different schemes and coaching styles his first few years if you don't have to.
That being said, I am not optimistic at all about next year. Monty has consistently shown very questionable rotation decisions, and his teams have shown a disturbing tendency to allow massive runs and not execute in close game situations. Some of this is on the players, but a lot of that is a reflection on the coach as well. Not to mention our league worst defensive efficiency mark. Which again is partially players, but when you're dead last in something as important as fricking defense, the coach deserves a good bit of blame
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Jester
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:03 am to Gtothemoney)
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What's a downgrade for us?
Tyrus Thomas for Anthony Davis. Jameer Nelson for Greivis Vasquez. I could keep doing this.
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We are lottery bound for the 2nd year straight.
Yeah, with half the payroll of the rest of the league suiting up. It was expected. We have no depth.
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Is a new direction for a lottery team going to be the wrong direction?
Not every direction, but some directions very much would be.
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Gtothemoney
New Orleans Saints Fan
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:10 am to Jester)
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Tyrus Thomas for Anthony Davis. Jameer Nelson for Greivis Vasquez. I could keep doing this
We are talking about coaches, not players.
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Yeah, with half the payroll of the rest of the league suiting up. It was expected. We have no depth.
But the manner of some of the loses is disheartening.
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Not every direction, but some directions very much would be.
The current direction of this team with this coach.
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Fearthehat0307
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Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:11 am to Gtothemoney)
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Is a new direction for a lottery team going to be the wrong direction?
going by minutes played at position this was our starting 5 last year
pg: Jarrett jack
sg: marco bellinelli
sf: AFA
pf: Gustavo ayon
c: chris Kaman
only one of those are still a member of the team. this year is year 1 of the rebuild not year 2. not saying we shouldn't expect better but trying to say we are trending down from last year is disingenuous. we have almost a complete roster overhaul and our franchise player is a rookie.
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mm2316
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:12 am to Gtothemoney)
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What year did you graduate?
Went to AJ pre-Katrina, CHS post-Katrina. You?
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Gtothemoney
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Sep 2012
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:15 am to mm2316)
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Went to AJ pre-Katrina, CHS post-Katrina. You?
Long before that.  graduated the year or so before Chalmette went coed.
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mm2316
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:17 am to Gtothemoney)
Dad?
Just kidding...
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Gtothemoney
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Sep 2012
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:20 am to mm2316)
I'm telling ya. Now be nice to me.
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TigerinATL
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:30 am to Gtothemoney)
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We are lottery bound for the 2nd year straight. Is a new direction for a lottery team going to be the wrong direction?
Why should we change direction based on the number of wins when wins don't appear to be the top priority this season?
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What's a downgrade for us?
Considering that either Benson or Demps would have to eat Monty and his coaching staff's salary, anything that isn't a significant upgrade is a downgrade. I think in 2 - 3 years you can start attracting the better coaches. I can easily see a scenario where panicking now leads to a lateral move and in 2 years you're ready to attract that big name coach and he's ready to come only you're already paying 2 mid level coaching staffs.
I just don't see the need to hurry unless you have a realistically available can't miss coaching prospect in mind. You're wanting to change for the sake of change but there are very real costs and potential future consequences associated with making changes.
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Gtothemoney
New Orleans Saints Fan
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 12:11 pm to TigerinATL)
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Considering that either Benson or Demps would have to eat Monty and his coaching staff's salary, anything that isn't a significant upgrade is a downgrade.
According to Forbes, I think he can afford it.
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American businessman and the owner of the New Orleans Saints, Tom Benson has a net worth of $1.1 billion as of March 2012, according to FORBES rich list
LINK
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CajunRevolution
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 12:28 pm to tadelatt)
The Hornets suck. Flies wouldn't lay eggs on this pile of shite. Be lucky to have Monty.
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danman6336 
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The Hornets suck. Flies wouldn't lay eggs on this pile of shite. Be lucky to have Monty.
This is probably the attitude to have really
This franchise is a dumpster fire, what more do fans really expect here? Be happy we are fortunate enough to have a below average coach and not a god-awful one
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Jester
LSU Fan
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:06 pm to Gtothemoney)
Benson didn't get that rich by wasting millions.
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quail man 
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:18 pm to danman6336)
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This franchise is a dumpster fire
lolwut?
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Fearthehat0307
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Member since Dec 2007
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:22 pm to quail man)
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This franchise is a dumpster fire
lolwut?
most over and inappropriately used word sports
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quail man
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there's no happy median on this board sometimes
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Jester
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:26 pm to quail man)
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there's no happy median on this board sometimes
Neutral ground?
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Fearthehat0307
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Member since Dec 2007
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:29 pm to quail man)
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there's no happy median on this board sometimes
we are in pretty good shape for the 1st year of a rebuild. i'm sure most teams in year 1 would love to be in the shape we are in. not saying we are a great team or anything but where we are currently sitting the ceiling for this team is pretty high.
I don't understand those comparing this team to last year when judging progress. we blew up last year's team and started over which was the correct thing to do. this is year 1 not year 2 of the rebirth
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Fearthehat0307
LSU Fan
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| re: Monty has to go! (Posted on 3/15/13 at 1:29 pm to Jester)
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Neutral ground?
:tank:
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