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Bduhon55 
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:03 am to blueslover)
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Matte Scot
ISWYDT
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Chad504boy
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:08 am to OldSouth)
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Driveway to the facility? The dome? Rita's dildo?
Harper, Bunkley, Hawthorne, (Will and Vilma were the case, still is to an extent) Malcom making decent money now, Jabari, Jordan was a 1st round pick value to the D, They were paying Ellis last year on the books... To sit here with a theory that we've ignored D and haven't done enough bc we're paying Drew is dumb.
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:17 am to Chad504boy)
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To sit here with a theory that we've ignored D and haven't done enough bc we're paying Drew is dumb.
This. Grubbs is the only big-time contract along the OL. We've done very well in the draft at drafting needs there.
However, we have made some horrible defensive moves in the draft: Sullivan, Ellis, etc.
At least the rookie contracts will not be as ridiculous as before, which will allow teams to spend a little more on proven veterans, but, then again, you could end up with another David.
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OldSouth 
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:44 pm to Chad504boy)
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Harper, Bunkley, Hawthorne, (Will and Vilma were the case, still is to an extent) Malcom making decent money now, Jabari, Jordan was a 1st round pick value to the D, They were paying Ellis last year on the books... To sit here with a theory that we've ignored D and haven't done enough bc we're paying Drew is dumb.
It doesn't matter what we're paying them, they are the worst EVER. EVER.
Please answer my original question. Does it matter who the backup is?
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ffhouston
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:48 pm to blueslover)
A vet who is worth a damn will cost you in the $2 mil range, and that's something this team (should not) do, given our other needs and cap situation.
IMO, the season is fricked if #9 is out for a period of time, so might as well go the cheap and developmental route by drafting a QB mid to late round...or even undrafted, like we did with Chase in the first place.
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blueslover
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:57 pm to ffhouston)
didn't see any responses to McCown. He lasted all through camp last year. I don't remember him looking embarrassing. The dirty birds snatched him up immediately as ryan's primary backup. It was a horrendous team and he was injured early but he did win the opening day starter job in Jax in 2011. Near vet minimum pay if not that.
He is kinda goofy looking tho
 
How bout 4th Rd or later QBs?
Mentioned so far-
Matt Scott
Sean Renfree
Aaron Murray
Dysert
Tyler Bray
Anybody know Nathan Stanley who played at Southeastern? He's on a lotta big boards. Transferred from Ole Miss, anyone know why he left? Very raw but some clear tools and build to work with.
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kclsufan
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/16/13 at 1:01 pm to blueslover)
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Lsuhoohoo
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/16/13 at 1:03 pm to blueslover)
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Aaron Murray
Murray is back at UGA.
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blueslover
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/16/13 at 1:07 pm to Lsuhoohoo)
maybe he's talkin next year? 
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grahammooney
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/16/13 at 1:34 pm to Hugo Stiglitz)
Why??!? Drew is the QB for 5 more years plus 1 at least.
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blueslover
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/16/13 at 1:40 pm to grahammooney)
we're talking backup, not replacement. A developmental pick can be turned into a valuable commodity. Look at the start of the thread.
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blueslover
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/16/13 at 2:20 pm to blueslover)
found THIS deep scouting report on Renfree.
Renfree’s pocket presence is an ingrained part of his game. He slides away from pressure while maintaining good throwing form -- Ryan Tannehill at Texas A&M is one example of a player who showed this -– and he possesses a good internal clock to get rid of the football. Combine this with the other NFL-caliber pocket skills I've discussed and Renfree has the makings of a potential starter. One that has a shorter developmental time than many may realize.
Is he the steal of the draft? Who knows, there's a lot about transitioning to the NFL that goes beyond skill: injury, emotional-psychological transition, money, team politics, etc. But at a position personnel executives consider the most important when building a team, Renfree is at least a solid candidate for that potential honor.
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blueslover
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:29 am to blueslover)
Not many names thrown out. So whaddya think on these free agents-
Derek Anderson, 30, 53/55 lifetime TD/INT, has started 43 games
Jason Campbell, 31, here's how the career of a #25 overall disappointment goes- play it out with team that drafts you (Wash), another desperate team gives you a shot (Oak), you are resigned to being a backup (Caro). Is experienced, not a terrible bum
Kellen Clemens, 30, lifetime 51% comp, 7/13 TD/INT, Might be Arena League time
Rex Grossman, Sexy Rexy will be 33 this season. Best thing I can find is he is 25-22 as a starter lifetime
Brian Hoyer, 28, there's buzz that a lot of teams like this guy even though he's only started 1 game and thrown 57 passes in 4 seasons
Matt Leinart, 30, surprising to not hear more about how gigantic of a flop he was for a #10 overall. Trying to hang on as a backup. TD/INT ratio is usually most incriminating for failure. His is 15/21
Stephen McGee, 28, thought this guy had some skills, he still hasn't flamed out from failure at least, not bad stats for the 82 passes he has thrown
Brady Quinn, 29, hanging on, started 8 games for KC in 2012, 1-7 record. Lifetime 12/17 TD/INT
Tyler Thigpen, 29, pretty typical career backup IMO, not a complete bum
Maybe Luke McCown back ain't so bad after going through those names
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OldSouth
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:34 am to blueslover)
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Not many names thrown out. So whaddya think on these free agents-
On my way and bringin the party with me Baby!
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HollierThanThou
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:40 am to OldSouth)
 
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blueslover
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:44 am to OldSouth)
forgot about that one
Wonder if he could do any NT? Like how a lotta fast guys go to the wider CFL field Jabarkus needs to go to a football league with 150yd long fields. Just throw it baby!
Kinda emblematic of the aging decline of Al Davis and the Raiders.
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goatmilker
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:54 am to OldSouth)
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Does it matter who the backup is?
Only matters when the QB goes down.
I would expect a vet as our 2nd at a VERY reasonable price then a very late round draft pic or UDFA to put on practice squad. And you hope CSP picks a winner there.
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adono
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:57 am to tigersint)
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I would take Matt barkley if he falls realy realy far into lte draft rounds
To all the football gods in heaven, please do not let this happen!
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OldSouth
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:00 am to adono)
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I would take Matt barkley if he falls realy realy far into lte draft rounds
To all the football gods in heaven, please do not let this happen!
Are you his agent or his girlfriend?
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adono
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| re: Backup QB Plan (Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:08 am to blueslover)
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Derek Anderson, 30, 53/55 lifetime TD/INT, has started 43 games
This guy would be my pick. I like backups with a lot of experience. If Brees goes down, you're screwed anyway, but an experienced guy may hold the team together a little better.
With that said, rookie QBs the last few years have been hitting the field and making a name for themselves. Is there a Russell Wilson or Kaepernick in this draft? Most probably not, but T. Wilson and Bray are interesting candidates.
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