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re: With Tiger's win today, that gives him 7 wins in his last 22 PGA Tourneys
Posted on 3/12/13 at 11:52 am to unbeWEAVEable
Posted on 3/12/13 at 11:52 am to unbeWEAVEable
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And I'm not trying to talk down to you, I am talking down to you
I'm sure that was much funnier in your head.
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Go back and read the novel I wrote. It's all spelled out in there nice and clear.
So you're not going to just link the two posts of mine that contradict each other? Because that wasn't in your novel.
You said you wanted a logical debate. Part of a logical debate is being able to provide clear evidence of what you claim. You claim I contradicted myself. If that's the case, you should be able to show that with two posts of mine. i'll just sit here and keep waiting I guess.
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Posted on 3/12/13 at 11:52 am to unbeWEAVEable
Posted on 3/12/13 at 11:54 am to iheartlsu
Heart, you are cracking me up 
Posted on 3/12/13 at 11:55 am to BeaverPRO
Posted on 3/12/13 at 11:56 am to iheartlsu
Posted on 3/12/13 at 11:57 am to BRgetthenet
probably get there around 130
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:00 pm to iheartlsu
I'll be out there.
Red Taylormade stand bag,
Red Taylormade stand bag,
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:02 pm to BRgetthenet
green pants. see you there
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:03 pm to LNCHBOX
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So you're not going to just link the two posts of mine that contradict each other? Because that wasn't in your novel.
Yes it was. Here it is.
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If anything, the newer tech means more people have a shot at winning compared to Jack's era, which would make Tiger's run more impressive. I dint see how you could logically argue against that.
Which is in direct contrast to your early statement saying this about advances in equipment -
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quote: It was the best for the time period. Everyone in the field has access to the same equipment, thus the playing field is leveled for superior skill to take over.
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I'm sure that was much funnier in your head.
I wasn't smiling when I typed that. It was intentional.
ETA: funny thing is, we've now shifted the focus of the argument from the original point of this whole thread to semantics. Whenever you would like to revisit the original argument, let me know.
This post was edited on 3/12/13 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:08 pm to unbeWEAVEable
And there is your reading comprehension fail.
This quote was made for people who were saying the newer tech had anything to do with Jack's run being better than Tiger's. It was made to establish that we could compare Tiger's numbers to Jack's even though they competed in different eras.
This quote doesn't contradict the previous one. Sorry, it just doesn't.
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It was the best for the time period. Everyone in the field has access to the same equipment, thus the playing field is leveled for superior skill to take over.
This quote was made for people who were saying the newer tech had anything to do with Jack's run being better than Tiger's. It was made to establish that we could compare Tiger's numbers to Jack's even though they competed in different eras.
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If anything, the newer tech means more people have a shot at winning compared to Jack's era, which would make Tiger's run more impressive. I dint see how you could logically argue against that.
This quote doesn't contradict the previous one. Sorry, it just doesn't.
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:20 pm to LNCHBOX
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This quote was made for people who were saying the newer tech had anything to do with Jack's run being better than Tiger's. It was made to establish that we could compare Tiger's numbers to Jack's even though they competed in different eras.
Keep in mind that this quote was in response to what I was saying. It was directed at me. You responded to me. So it is relevant to our argument.
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This quote doesn't contradict the previous one.
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Everyone in the field has access to the same equipment, thus the playing field is leveled for superior skill to take over.
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the newer tech means more people have a shot at winning compared to Jack's era
How can the playing field be leveled, but more people have a shot at winning?
Are you saying that the skill of the modem golfer is superior to that of those in the past? That's a completely different argument, but it will get us to the finish line (if that is indeed what you are saying).
So you believe that equipment has no factor in that equation? Especially in the GOAT?
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But for the purpose of GOAT discussions, equipment is irrelevant.
It is what you believe. So lets revisit the original argument...
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the superior technology of a given time and the technology itself.
This is where it began.
ETA: The quotes inherently contradict each other because the arguments contradict each other. They aren't the same argument.
This post was edited on 3/12/13 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:23 pm to unbeWEAVEable
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:25 pm to iheartlsu
This post was edited on 3/12/13 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:26 pm to unbeWEAVEable
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the superior technology of a given time and the technology itself.
How does this work if Jack was in his prime now playing with the gear we use now?
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:26 pm to BRgetthenet
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:27 pm to unbeWEAVEable
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ETA: funny thing is, we've now shifted the focus of the argument from the original point of this whole thread to semantics. Whenever you would like to revisit the original argument, let me know.
Sure. Here is my original and only stance in this thread.
Jack is currently the GOAT. Tiger is well on his way to taking that over, but obviously has work left to do.
The advances in equipment play no part in comparing their careers, because Tiger has had to play longer and tighter courses as a result of the aforementioned advanced tech. The tech is a wash, because both's respective competition had access to equal tech.
The only way you could bring tech logically into the discussion is if Tiger and Jack were both playing an identical course at the same time while both in their primes.
So feel free to tell me where I'm wrong.
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:29 pm to unbeWEAVEable
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How can the playing field be leveled, but more people have a shot at winning?
You've taken this quote entirely out of context, which I explained just now in the post above this one.
Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:31 pm to LNCHBOX
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So feel free to tell me where I'm wrong.
I am the GOAT
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