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re: My faith in Bitcoin just went out the window

Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:25 am to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:25 am to
Set it on fire, your result will be the same but it'll be over quickly.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126918 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:28 am to
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I would appreciate it if you answered mine.
Maybe he is just being rude and refuses to reply to your posts....
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:40 am to
Maybe if it had a backing of something other than the word of the bitcoin creator. Whom by the way nobody has met or knows if they truly exist. Someone we could hold accountable when the scam collapses.

Now I'd appreciate if you could answer Russians questions?.

Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:46 am to
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Maybe if it had a backing of something other than the word of the bitcoin creator. Whom by the way nobody has met or knows if they truly exist. Someone we could hold accountable when the scam collapses.


That's your whole beef? Backing?

In that case, cryptocurrency will never be for you, as one of the key components of them will be that they have no backing. If that scares you, then don't use bitcoins or other non-backed currencies.

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Now I'd appreciate if you could answer Russians questions?.


Which questions specifically?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:48 am to
How about any of them?
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:49 am to
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How about any of them?


Post them and I'll answer them.
Posted by MetalTiger
Member since Jan 2009
1108 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:54 am to
WikiTiger is correct. Your faith in Site5 as a domain registrar should be shaken. There is nothing wrong with bitcoin. I trust my hardware and encryption to protect my BTC. It is as simple as using truecrypt and offline storage.
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:58 am to
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It is as simple as using truecrypt and offline storage.


Easy as 1, 2, 3 for the average computer joe.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:07 am to
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bitcoins cannot be frozen or seized by any government or private actor
This is categorically untrue in the United States. What do the following mean?

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the
Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin
of the United States

Those are powers specifically granted to COngress by our Constitution. Your bitcoins could be declared worthless foreign coins, exchange rate of zero, at any point in time by Congress. Possession could be made a crime just like possession of child pornography. Those are hardly characteristics that excel traditional currencies.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126918 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:10 am to
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Post them and I'll answer them.
I've already posted them. You're just showing your immaturity.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80121 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:18 am to
libertarians are sovereign citizens and the actions of the United States government have no bearing on them
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42444 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:19 am to
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Your bitcoins could be declared worthless foreign coins, exchange rate of zero, at any point in time by Congress.


Yeah, I felt like bringing this up, but realized it would just garner some around-the-bout reply. Once the US takes action against bitcoin (which it will), I'm going to guess the entire scheme crashes.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:49 am to
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This is categorically untrue in the United States. What do the following mean?

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the
Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin
of the United States

Those are powers specifically granted to COngress by our Constitution.


I don't think you quite understand the constitution. But whatever, I'll never convince you of how wrong you are on this topic. Even showing you alternative currencies being legally used in the US wouldn't convince you.

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Your bitcoins could be declared worthless foreign coins


They can do that all they want. It will have no real impact on the actual price, except maybe cause it to go up.

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Possession could be made a crime


Is this something you would support?

Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:50 am to
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Once the US takes action against bitcoin (which it will)


What will they do?

How will they accomplish their goals?

Will they be able to enforce their laws globally?
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42444 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:52 am to
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Even showing you alternative currencies being legally used in the US wouldn't convince you.


Difference: they are taxed.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:53 am to
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Difference: they are taxed


Bitcoins can be taxed.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42444 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:53 am to
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What will they do?


Take action similar to the Poker industry, but harsher. Prosecute major third party sites and push the US population out of bitcoins.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42444 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:54 am to
I'm not saying it can't be, but I believe one of the main bitcoin purposes is to avoid government taxation (could be wrong).
This post was edited on 3/8/13 at 11:55 am
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:57 am to
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but I believe one of the main bitcoin purposes is to avoid government taxation (could be wrong).


it does make taxation avoidance extremely easy, and it makes investigation extremely expensive
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80121 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:57 am to
wikster, i want to go back to my idea of the government mining a bunch of coins.

didnt you say that the rate of mining is controlled i.e. only 100 coins can be mined an hour or whatever. of those 100 coins, what determines how many i would get versus how many you would get? is it the power of the computing machinery?
This post was edited on 3/8/13 at 11:59 am
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