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Posted on 3/5/13 at 10:03 am to DelU249
Posted on 3/5/13 at 10:03 am to DelU249
The music sucks
Star Wars...Star Wars theme
Empire...Imperial March
Jedi...Yub Nub
Emperor Palpatine
Palpatine steals the show, and the scenes with him are enthralling. He doesn't really tempt luke with anything, but god damn he is such a good character and Ian Mcdyrmidskdf;lsdkfj does a great job of portryaing the character.
Droids
Why in gods name does han, leia and luke bring r2 and c3po to endor. In star wars they're unintentionally along for the ride and they serve a purpose. In empire, once again they're possessions that are packed up when escaping hoth. Kershner finds some pretty good ways to make them accessible to us and humanize them. He makes them useful but not in a cheap way. But in Jedi, they're just there, doing stupid things and the plot seems as if it was written to accomodate them.
Vader Doesn't Kill Anyone
So at this point in 1983, vader is really popular. Lucas realizing this, has to make him a good guy because everyone who is popular must be a babyface. It's almost like professional wrestling. After two movies of being an awful, murderous henchman, he now is transformed into some sort of tragedy and the emperor takes his place as the purely evil character. Why cant they both just be two really evil dudes? To make his redemption more believable Lucas doesn't have him kill or hurt anyone (other than the emperor) You just know watching the opening scene that moff jerjerkjdlsdfjlk is hurting for a choking. I wasn't really surprised to find out that a scene of vader choking moff jerjerklsdj; was cut from the movie. At least they delayed introducing him as the chosen one and allowing the trilogy to end on a somewhat respectable note.
So I've pretty much said everything I wanted to say about this
I remember this movie as ok. I was looking forward to watching it last night, but I was really taken aback at how awful everything minus the emperor scenes were. It's almost like a satire of Star Wars instead of the satisfying conclusion to a great saga. There is alot that could be said about costumes and makeup, but it really doesn't matter at this point. I'll just end with the last inconsistency. Vader dies, but his body does not transform into a luminous being that is one with the force, but at the end we see his force ghost chilling with obi wan and yoda. You'd also think this reunion might be a little awkward. After all, he did kill children, murder tons of people and help bring about an evil empire that enslaved the galaxy. In summation, frick you george lucas.
and because it either has been said or will be said, I think this movie is light years better than the prequels, but falls drastically short of the standards set by the original movie and the Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars...Star Wars theme
Empire...Imperial March
Jedi...Yub Nub
Emperor Palpatine
Palpatine steals the show, and the scenes with him are enthralling. He doesn't really tempt luke with anything, but god damn he is such a good character and Ian Mcdyrmidskdf;lsdkfj does a great job of portryaing the character.
Droids
Why in gods name does han, leia and luke bring r2 and c3po to endor. In star wars they're unintentionally along for the ride and they serve a purpose. In empire, once again they're possessions that are packed up when escaping hoth. Kershner finds some pretty good ways to make them accessible to us and humanize them. He makes them useful but not in a cheap way. But in Jedi, they're just there, doing stupid things and the plot seems as if it was written to accomodate them.
Vader Doesn't Kill Anyone
So at this point in 1983, vader is really popular. Lucas realizing this, has to make him a good guy because everyone who is popular must be a babyface. It's almost like professional wrestling. After two movies of being an awful, murderous henchman, he now is transformed into some sort of tragedy and the emperor takes his place as the purely evil character. Why cant they both just be two really evil dudes? To make his redemption more believable Lucas doesn't have him kill or hurt anyone (other than the emperor) You just know watching the opening scene that moff jerjerkjdlsdfjlk is hurting for a choking. I wasn't really surprised to find out that a scene of vader choking moff jerjerklsdj; was cut from the movie. At least they delayed introducing him as the chosen one and allowing the trilogy to end on a somewhat respectable note.
So I've pretty much said everything I wanted to say about this
I remember this movie as ok. I was looking forward to watching it last night, but I was really taken aback at how awful everything minus the emperor scenes were. It's almost like a satire of Star Wars instead of the satisfying conclusion to a great saga. There is alot that could be said about costumes and makeup, but it really doesn't matter at this point. I'll just end with the last inconsistency. Vader dies, but his body does not transform into a luminous being that is one with the force, but at the end we see his force ghost chilling with obi wan and yoda. You'd also think this reunion might be a little awkward. After all, he did kill children, murder tons of people and help bring about an evil empire that enslaved the galaxy. In summation, frick you george lucas.
and because it either has been said or will be said, I think this movie is light years better than the prequels, but falls drastically short of the standards set by the original movie and the Empire Strikes Back
This post was edited on 3/5/13 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 3/5/13 at 11:51 am to DelU249
Droids
Why in gods name does han, leia and luke bring r2 and c3po to endor. In star wars they're unintentionally along for the ride and they serve a purpose. In empire, once again they're possessions that are packed up when escaping hoth. Kershner finds some pretty good ways to make them accessible to us and humanize them. He makes them useful but not in a cheap way. But in Jedi, they're just there, doing stupid things and the plot seems as if it was written to accomodate them.
Vader Doesn't Kill Anyone
So at this point in 1983, vader is really popular. Lucas realizing this, has to make him a good guy because everyone who is popular must be a babyface. It's almost like professional wrestling. After two movies of being an awful, murderous henchman, he now is transformed into some sort of tragedy and the emperor takes his place as the purely evil character. Why cant they both just be two really evil dudes? To make his redemption more believable Lucas doesn't have him kill or hurt anyone (other than the emperor) You just know watching the opening scene that moff jerjerkjdlsdfjlk is hurting for a choking. I wasn't really surprised to find out that a scene of vader choking moff jerjerklsdj; was cut from the movie. At least they delayed introducing him as the chosen one and allowing the trilogy to end on a somewhat respectable note.
Why in gods name does han, leia and luke bring r2 and c3po to endor. In star wars they're unintentionally along for the ride and they serve a purpose. In empire, once again they're possessions that are packed up when escaping hoth. Kershner finds some pretty good ways to make them accessible to us and humanize them. He makes them useful but not in a cheap way. But in Jedi, they're just there, doing stupid things and the plot seems as if it was written to accomodate them.
Vader Doesn't Kill Anyone
So at this point in 1983, vader is really popular. Lucas realizing this, has to make him a good guy because everyone who is popular must be a babyface. It's almost like professional wrestling. After two movies of being an awful, murderous henchman, he now is transformed into some sort of tragedy and the emperor takes his place as the purely evil character. Why cant they both just be two really evil dudes? To make his redemption more believable Lucas doesn't have him kill or hurt anyone (other than the emperor) You just know watching the opening scene that moff jerjerkjdlsdfjlk is hurting for a choking. I wasn't really surprised to find out that a scene of vader choking moff jerjerklsdj; was cut from the movie. At least they delayed introducing him as the chosen one and allowing the trilogy to end on a somewhat respectable note.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 12:47 pm to DelU249
quote:
Vader Doesn't Kill Anyone
Never really thought of this, but you're right.
And hell of a great post.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:04 pm to DelU249
Fox Mulder
You a douche.
For real
You a douche.
For real
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:34 pm to DelU249
I agree with everything Fox.
I remember sitting in my seat at the end of Empire and thinking I gotta wait another couple years for the next one! Empire was unbelievable and set the bar very high.
When Jedi came out, Jabbas entourage, Bobas death, Ewoks, and another Death Star were shockingly bad. I could not believe how disappointed I was after a Star Wars movie.
I learned to like it a little but Episodes IV and V were lightyears ahead of VI.
I remember sitting in my seat at the end of Empire and thinking I gotta wait another couple years for the next one! Empire was unbelievable and set the bar very high.
When Jedi came out, Jabbas entourage, Bobas death, Ewoks, and another Death Star were shockingly bad. I could not believe how disappointed I was after a Star Wars movie.
I learned to like it a little but Episodes IV and V were lightyears ahead of VI.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 6:40 pm to DelU249
I think the key problem with Star Wars is that they aren't really that good and no one is willing to admit it.
They are such a huge part of the popular culture that any kind of criticism will be rejected and the criticizer will be accused of being a "contrarian" or some shite.
And I'm saying this and yet I was a MAJOR Star Wars nerd growing up. I fricking loved those movies so damn much.
But let's face it, except for Empire, none of them really holds up, and even Empire, while decent, isn't really a great film.
There. I said it.
They are such a huge part of the popular culture that any kind of criticism will be rejected and the criticizer will be accused of being a "contrarian" or some shite.
And I'm saying this and yet I was a MAJOR Star Wars nerd growing up. I fricking loved those movies so damn much.
But let's face it, except for Empire, none of them really holds up, and even Empire, while decent, isn't really a great film.
There. I said it.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 6:57 pm to DelU249
Excellent review. I can't disagree.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 9:58 am to DelU249
This is really funny, like TulaneLSU funny
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