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jcole4lsu
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re: What do you guys think?


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My links are from the most accurate sources we have in this country. CBO, and Federal Reserve, the Fed holds most of our debt so I doubt they would lie about deficit spending.


labor dept doesnt lie about UE numbers either, devil is in exactly what they are reporting (and not reporting).

and the treasury links say you are full of shit






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HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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re: What do you guys think?


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I think you are either naive, or retarded.

He's just picking and choosing what to believe.

Hell, Obama isn't even touting half the shite this guy is trying to say in this thread.






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Something over there
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Member since Mar 2012
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re: What do you guys think?


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CBO, by law, can only score legislation as written. It can't make any assumptions, like say that the Medicare Doc Fix won't get passed once again. Do you really want to claim that the CBO is an amazing projector of deficits and cost of legislation?


My main link backing my justification for this entire thread came from the Federal Reserve. It showed that the deficit today is lower than the day Obama took office. The CBO projections merely project it to continue shrinking.






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RogerTheShrubber
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Juneau, AK
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I can't name all of the programs that were cut or lost funding but there were some. Revenue has increased. Revenue plays the biggest part in the deficit.



You are a true believer.






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jcole4lsu
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re: What do you guys think?


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Revenue plays the biggest part in the deficit.

apparently an extra dollar counts more than a subtracted dollar in his world






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RogerTheShrubber
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apparently an extra dollar counts more than a subtracted dollar in his world



He has a want to believe.






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CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
25889 posts

re: What do you guys think?


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Hell, Obama isn't even touting half the shite this guy is trying to say in this thread.


Agree, cherry -picking or not, this guy(obama) is putting up numbers like we've never seen, and everyone of the liberals, including him, are blaming someone else. Truly pathetic. The projected deficits really take off in 2014, when guess what else hits!!??






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MFn GIMP
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Owensboro, Kentucky
Member since Feb 2011
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Hmm, according to the most current budget numbers we are projected to have a $990.557 billion deficit this year. So in the last 6 months we have gone from a projection of >$600 billion to $845 billion to $990.557 billion. Gee, that Obama is an amazing fiscal moderate.

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RockyMtnTigerWDE
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re: What do you guys think?


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I can't name all of the programs that were cut or lost funding but there were some. Revenue has increased. Revenue plays the biggest part in the deficit.






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TerryDawg03
Georgia Fan
Member since Dec 2012
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re: What do you guys think?


10/01/2009 11,920,519,164,319.42

09/28/2012 16,066,241,407,385.89

Nothing to blame on Bush. Over 4 trillion increase in national debt. Treasury.gov

Increases in debt come from deficits. Care to dispute this?






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Something over there
Arkansas Fan
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Mar 2012
1068 posts

re: What do you guys think?


PROBABLY MY FINAL POST IN THIS THREAD.

after reading through my links backed by the Federal Reserve and CBO do you or do you not believe that the current deficit is less than the deficit Obama inherited his first day in office? Keep in mind that deficit and debt are completely different things.

If yes, good for you!
If no:

1. please explain what you think the current (as of today) deficit is.

2. compare that number to the (cited in two links by people from both sides of this argument) factcheck.org statement that as of Jan. 20 2009 (the day Obama took office) the deficit was 1.2 trillion dollars.

3. If you cannot provide any reasonable means of debunking that number please do not try. Rather compare that number with what you think the deficit is as of today (step 1)

4. ask yourself "is Obama really as big of a spender as Republicans make him out to be?"


That should get you one tiny step closer to being informed.

Thank you and good night!



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VOR
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re: What do you guys think?


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just use common sense


There's a reason it's called "common" sense. Just sayin'.






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jcole4lsu
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re: What do you guys think?


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VOR

oh look its mr moderate






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RogerTheShrubber
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There's a reason it's called "common" sense. Just sayin'.



Never thought I would see a day when someone would disparage wisdom brought by experience.








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RogerTheShrubber
LSU Fan
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oh look its mr moderate









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jcole4lsu
Virginia Fan
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re: What do you guys think?


i wouldnt put anything past that hack at this point





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HailHailtoMichigan!
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Never thought I would see a day when someone would disparage wisdom brought by experience.

experience doesn't matter to people who judge things by their intentions, not their results.






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Something over there
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Member since Mar 2012
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re: What do you guys think?


Jcole, please follow my simple 4 step process. I anticipate reading the results.





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RogerTheShrubber
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experience doesn't matter to people who judge things by their intentions, not their results.




Makes sense.






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jcole4lsu
Virginia Fan
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Member since Nov 2007
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re: What do you guys think?


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Jcole, please follow my simple 4 step process. I anticipate reading the results.


try taking an econ class in between hog calling and philosophy






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