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re: Les miles to blame for Montgomery taking games off?

Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:02 pm to
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Why possibly would any LSU fan care about the other119 teams when the one that's on top is in our conf, in our division and our biggest rival ?

Obv no team is perfect, but bottom line is that Alabama has set the bar for college football now... You either exceed it or you play Clemson in the fricking chick Fila bowl.

I'm just telling it like it is

perspective. that's why.

bama's on a great run, but 99% of the other 118 teams in cfb would trade places with us.

do you really care about the chik fil a bowl? even had we won it? LSU got screwed in the bowls this yr so the SEC could protect UGA and their school with the heisman winner. it produced a game in a bowl no one cared about. except maybe for clemson.

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You either exceed it or you play Clemson in the fricking chick Fila bowl.

I'm just telling it like it is.

did bama exceed it when they played utah in a bcs bowl?




you disregarded my question on whose fault it was in those bama losses. possibly to not contradict yourself. good move.



Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13070 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:04 pm to
You keep ignoring the fact that this is one player.

You are saying the whole team is basically lazy and it is Les' fault. It was one player.

An anomaly, they exist. You turn around and insult everyone who disagrees with you, making yourself look even more stupid.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:05 pm to
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I don't dislike miles


Methinks thou dost protest too much.
For a guy that doesn't dislike Miles, you never seem to miss an occasion to attack him.
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Anything less is unacceptable, second place is no good.

Ever? You demand perfection?

Admit it. Les didn't play your pet enough to suit you. And you have this perpetual hard-on against Les for that. That's really an adult way to approach things isn't it?
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:06 pm to
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You keep ignoring the fact that this is one player.

You are saying the whole team is basically lazy and it is Les' fault. It was one player.

An anomaly, they exist. You turn around and insult everyone who disagrees with you, making yourself look even more stupid.

no i'll go so far is to say he's not the anomaly for doing it, he's the anomaly for admitting it.

but an anomaly compared to all of cfb not just LSU. most players on every team, yes even bama players, are guilty of this.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13070 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:17 pm to
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no i'll go so far is to say he's not the anomaly for doing it, he's the anomaly for admitting it. but an anomaly compared to all of cfb not just LSU. most players on every team, yes even bama players, are guilty of this.


This is what I meant. I said as much earlier in the thread and he completely ignored it. Because it is right, and he doesn't want to be proved wrong.

Better to ignore the correct argument than admit you were wrong I guess. Ignorance is bliss.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:19 pm to
Are you just intentionally being this difficult?

I mean are you asking me to sit here and give an account o why Alabama hasn't dominated every team on the field and scoreboard since NS arrived?
Really?
Most of the games you referenced where in his early yrs anyways.

Perspective is for losers bro.
I've stated nothing but facts and for some reason you just not hearing it.

Do you think they are on this run bc of luck?
There's a reason why ....and instead of it being 3 outa 4 if LSU does t beat them in nov I'd put my money that it'll be 4 out of 5.

I don't like it anymore than you or any other LSU fan... It's the way things are currently.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34273 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:22 pm to
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Methinks thou dost protest too much.
For a guy that doesn't dislike Miles, you never seem to miss an occasion to attack him.


He has hated Les Miles since Jordan Jefferson took his first snap.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:24 pm to
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TIGRLEE


Hopefully you demand the kind of perfection for yourself that you demand of others.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:24 pm to
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TIGRLEE


You get an 11/10 for your trolling in this thread.

Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:27 pm to
He is the head coach
Posted by oldschoolgreats
Member since Nov 2012
1902 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:34 pm to
tigerlee, bama's success is as much a result of the failure of other programs IN THE CLUTCH. last yr. LSU should have beat them easily and miles/chavis blew it. also, oregon should have scored more than 14 points (including overtime) on a very good stanford team. the prior yr. okie state lost their basketball team in a airplane crash and then lost to a WEAK opponent on a missed field goal. bama should not have been in either title game. i give them credit for being in a position to capitalize on the MISTAKES of other teams/coaches. but, its not like they dominated everyone the prior 2 years. we were as good as they were each year. BUT, they won and thats all that counts in the end. BUT, they not some super dynasty as you portray them.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:36 pm to
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the prior yr. okie state lost their basketball team in a airplane crash


Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:42 pm to
The only thing I've portrayed is that bama has won 3 out of the past 4 NCs and that many of our fans have a habit of making excuses which you knocked outa park from your first sentence to the last.
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:45 pm to
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Are you just intentionally being this difficult?

I mean are you asking me to sit here and give an account o why Alabama hasn't dominated every team on the field and scoreboard since NS arrived?
Really?
Most of the games you referenced where in his early yrs anyways.

Perspective is for losers bro.
I've stated nothing but facts and for some reason you just not hearing it.

Do you think they are on this run bc of luck?
There's a reason why ....and instead of it being 3 outa 4 if LSU does t beat them in nov I'd put my money that it'll be 4 out of 5.

I don't like it anymore than you or any other LSU fan... It's the way things are currently

i'm just asking for consistency.

why is it never acceptable for LSU to fail ever? why is miles always accountable but saban isn't? i know "3 outta 4" is a familiar refrain. not as big as the multi platinum hit "1/9" but it's up there.


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Perspective is for losers bro.

it must be awesome for you IRL to be the best at everything you ever do ever. congrats!!

is perspective not what separates a reasonable person from a unreasonable person? is it not the definer of one's reality? you've created a reality where if LSU is not perfect then you hate their coach. you've also created a reality where where everyone else gets credit but Miles when something good happens but no one else but miles receives blame when something bad happens. but i knw, you don't hate the guy.

in your reality how many NC's does Miles have to win for you to be happy? how many turns the tide (no pun intended) from the current unacceptable state of the program into an acceptable one? 1 more? 3 more? more than saban?

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I've stated nothing but facts and for some reason you just not hearing it.

what i'm hearing is that LSU must be steadfastly held to an example that hasn't been set by a team since tom osbourne's nebraska team.

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Do you think they are on this run bc of luck?

of course not. but to disregard the fact that bama has caught some breaks in this run is being dishonest or intentionally obtuse.

for example:


LINK



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I don't like it anymore than you or any other LSU fan

man i hate the fact that LSU is in the golden age of their football existence and their fans are miserable. i really do. this isn't fun.

This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Corn Dawg Nation
Member since Oct 2009
3528 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:47 pm to
TIGERLEE is a fricking joke and not a tiger fan. He's got sabans dick in his mouth so much he can't think clearly. He blames miles for high fricking gas prices.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:54 pm to
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I'm sorry, I just don't go along with that mentality.


Yeah, I kinda feel that way when a "lets blame someone else" subject like this pops up.

Montgomery gets the blame for his own actions and I really don't see how any reasonable/sane person would try to excuse his actions by pushing blame to anyone else.

Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:57 pm to
btw you can certainly turn anything i say into "well sorry you don't expect excellence from your program" or "sorry you don't strive to be the best" but that's a cop out and a ridiculous attitude.

i just don't get how people treat LSU and bama like they're the only two teams in cfb and the " if you're not first, you're last" mentality.

i give kudos to bama for what they've accomplished. and i definitely want to be the team that wins 3 out of 4. but it's not all or nothing for me. it just seems like recipe for misery especially for a fan. i understand if you're a player or a coach.


edit: and here's the funny thing and i know this is going to sound strange but Les Miles wants to beat bama more than anyone who posts here. like exponentially more.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 12:59 pm
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:59 pm to
After reading all that,basically you are trying to get me to go along with you and say hey it's ok, we tried hard ...Alabama is just been fortunate.

I ain't gonna do it bud, lets just agree to disagree.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20449 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:01 pm to
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TIGRLEE


You're the worst kind of fan.
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 1:05 pm to
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After reading all that,basically you are trying to get me to go along with you and say hey it's ok, we tried hard ...Alabama is just been fortunate.

I ain't gonna do it bud, lets just agree to disagree

that's fine i gotta eat lunch anyway.

but that's not what i'm saying and i think you know that.

i give bama all the credit in the world for taking advantage of their fortune. LSU did so in 03 and 07 and they're champions for it.

LSU won the SEC a little more than a calendar yr ago. they'll be there again. i hope its ok to consider that a good thing.

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