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re: Any other Star Trek:TOS fans hate the Abrams stuff?

Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:02 pm to
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I tried to see the intact characters in 2009, but all I found were 1-note jokes, unrecognizable "origin of" stories and big-budget special effects. It is a very pretty film, but beyond that - not Star Trek.



I'm not sure it's legit to complain about "origin of" stories being "unrecognizable", given the 2009 movie wasn't a prequel to TOS. That said, if you weren't reminded of TOS and earlier movies by things like straight Spock telling Kirk how to remove gay Spock from command (all that was missing from the subsequent scene was Kirk calling Spock the dog-faced boy), or straight Spock telling gay Spock about the value of the Kirk/Spock friendship (with a Saavik/Spock-like "You lied" moment), the Kobayashi Maru sequence, Pike ending up in a wheelchair (one way or another), and so on, I don't know what to say. Even Nero was just a reimagined Khan WRT his crazed pursuit of vengeance against Spock. The very final scene, with Kirk taking command of the Enterprise after saving the universe and earning the respect of Star Fleet and most importantly, the Enterprise crew, was everything it should have been.

I was totally sold on the reboot, surprisingly so. The only thing I found really off was Scotty's pet. The primary 3 characters, Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, are off to a great start. As for the crew, Uhuru is a real standout.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 4:15 pm to
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straight Spock telling gay Spock about the value of the Kirk/Spock friendship


Best part of the film, no doubt. While I suggested the timing was just right, and I admit it had, by far, the 2 best actors in the film in the same scene, I felt the Straight Spock/Gay Spock scene insufficient fodder to fix the rest of the horrendous mashup of a film. I admit that the scene flirted with being Star Trek, but I think that's primarily because it had Leonard Nimoy, playing Spock in the scene. Referencing a relationship is not the same as a relationship.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 2/16/13 at 5:17 pm to
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the Kobayashi Maru sequence


Was terrible. Instead of it portraying how badly Kirk doesn't believe in no win scenarios, it was basically him acting like a punk and sticking it to Starfleet.
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