re: Music Board's Albums of the Year

Oh, jeez. By "hardcore", I meant I liked the musical genre of hardcore, which is generally thought to be American DIY punk of the early to mid 80s. As I've grown older, I actually listen to lot softer stuff just because, well, I'm older. I'm not slam dancing to Flipper anymore (though I still enjoy their stuff). Which made sense in the context of that thread, which asked about "post-hardcore".

I don't connect with the newer stuff, but I won't trash it. I'm just too old for it. I'll stick to my old Screeching Weasel records and not the new Screeching Weasel records. I'm not up on modern hardcore. I tuned out about when Blood Brothers or The Icarus Line were at their peak. Which was what? Ten years ago? Damn, time flies. (Actually, I do own all of OFF!'s catalog, but that's just Keith Morris kicking it old school. And does Metz meet your definition of modern hardcore? I rather like them)

I do think Cloud Nothings new album is on a par with Fugazi. It's a great leap forward. Are you telling me that you can't detect the huge influence of End Hits era Fugazi on a song like No Future/No Past? Ian MacKaye isn't a god, you can compare people to him. His kids go to school with my brother's kids. He's just a dude. He doesn't mind the comparisons, really. And I think an aggressively indie band like Cloud Nothings, which started as a one man project recording all the instruments by himself in his own studio, is not that far removed from the ethics of Fugazi.

I'm not rally interested in your dogmatic lines in the sand. They are boring. We've moved on. Really, like what you like. There's a big wide world out there. Hardcore collapsed in on itself because of these strict rules and scriptures. The rules became too binding.

As for lo fi... I don't know, Pavement is one of my favorite bands. Any band in the Elephant 6 collective. Guided by Voices. I've championed Archers of Loaf a lot on this board. Modest Mouse. Jon Spencer. Yo La Tengo. Do I pass?