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re: Why Can't the United States Assemble a Championship Soccer Team?

Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:09 pm to
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1. Being Lebron James or Chris Paul doesn't mean you will succeed in any sport.

no, but i'd put good money that if those 2 guys had played soccer form a young age they'd be playing at the top level today

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3. Soccer will NEVER, at least in the near future (20+ years), attract the thousands of top athletes that your "dream" requires in the US.

and that's why this discussion will never die

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4. If soccer is ever to get to that point, it will:

a. Need to drastically improve its academies, and pump millions upon millions of dollars into the domestic league.

or just develop relationships with top european teams so our players go to their academies

we could follow the south american model (and i know brazil is pumping money into its league, but that's really recent)

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b. More than likely target the Harvin's, Welker's and Sproles' of the country.

i'd hope we'd target everyone

the shitty thing for US soccer is that we don't have to target percy harvin. like i said a few pages ago...go look at CBB. there are multitudes of amazing guys who have no shot at a pro career in basketball (size/athleticism) but could have had a shot in soccer

if we could just get 10-25% of these guys to get serious in soccer going forward, we'd seem dramatic improvement (even if our training levels stayed at the same level)

i do strongly believe that the USNT could develop a non-traditional scheme and get us into the top 5-6 consistently

i wish that we had more aggressive thinkers from the top in american soccer to develop new schemes
Posted by acgeaux129
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:13 pm to
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i'd hope we'd target everyone

the shitty thing for US soccer is that we don't have to target percy harvin. like i said a few pages ago...go look at CBB. there are multitudes of amazing guys who have no shot at a pro career in basketball (size/athleticism) but could have had a shot in soccer

if we could just get 10-25% of these guys to get serious in soccer going forward, we'd seem dramatic improvement (even if our training levels stayed at the same level)

i do strongly believe that the USNT could develop a non-traditional scheme and get us into the top 5-6 consistently

i wish that we had more aggressive thinkers from the top in american soccer to develop new schemes



Bingo, this is what I've been trying to say this whole thread.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:14 pm to
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there are multitudes of amazing guys who have no shot at a pro career in basketball (size/athleticism) but could have had a shot in soccer


Agree 100% that those are the athletes we should be targeting if this dream ever came to fruition. For now, I think our soccer pool is athletically good enough. We should invest in better development, and as a result of that, will attract more "elite" (a vague term really, us Americans seem to label football or basketball stars with this term, yet deny soccer players) athletes.

I agree with you hypothetically. Realistically I don't.
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Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:15 pm to
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i wish that we had more aggressive thinkers from the top in american soccer to develop new schemes

You and me both.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:49 pm to
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no, but i'd put good money that if those 2 guys had played soccer form a young age they'd be playing at the top level today

CP3 would be raw. His vision is incredible. Paul could be a nasty CM.

I am not sold on Lebron being a great soccer player unless he played a position that did not require as much constant movement. Huge guys like that are not great endurance wise. I do not how he would fare with all the running. He would have to be a keeper, CB, or maybe a target striker.

One difference between soccer and most basketball players is their endurance to run. Soccer players can translate incredibly well to have distance running, but most basketball players cannot (Rip Hamilton is a fairly notable exception - he can somehow run like a 5 minute mile). There are just different types of athletes.

FWIW, I have only read like 5% of this thread, so I am sorry if my shite is rehashed or stupid.
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