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redfieldk717 
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| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:58 pm to Manswers)
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The problem is if he gains 15-20 lbs he won't run 4.5 40's anymore.
i dont see him gaining that much weight unless he really really tried....hes filled out pretty well right now, not sure how much more room hes got as far as filling out his frame. we shall see, good to have options
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Lester Earl 
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| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:01 pm to drjeff17)
not enough range to cover
This post was edited on 1/30 at 11:05 pm
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DanglingFury 
VCU Fan
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
16017 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:16 pm to Lester Earl)
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not enough range to cover
He plays outside, he's got 4.4/4.5 speed. How does he not have range?
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omegaman66 
LSU Fan
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
6530 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:21 pm to DanglingFury)
People talking out there ass. You can't simply look at someones measurables and determine that they fit any particular position.
Anyone watch him play this year? He has GREAT measurables but is not a 4* why?
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TigerTilIDie85
LSU Fan
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2013
154 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:23 pm to omegaman66)
Stars don't mean shite!
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jaysworld512
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Member since Jan 2013
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| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:30 pm to TigerTilIDie85)
What? It's pretty obvious that teams at top of recruiting rankings are usually the same ones playing for bcs and sec championships
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Lester Earl
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| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:42 pm to DanglingFury)
Laron Landry runs a 4.38 and he has problems. Its not all about speed. Flexibility, turning & running. Playing the ball in the air.
He's a LB. He's reads the ball and reacts to tackle it. He's an attacker. Not a coverage guy.
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5Alive
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2009
2644 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:09 am to Lester Earl)
I'm proud of u Lester! 
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omegaman66
LSU Fan
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
6530 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:19 am to Lester Earl)
Exactly, I have not seen him play. There are a huge number of reasons for him being a three star and not rated higher. Speed, size, can't tackle, hates contact, LITTLE RESEARCH! Anyone out there able to fill me in with your opinion of how good he is/will be?
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LSUTil_iDie
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| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:31 am to Lester Earl)
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Its not all about speed. Flexibility, turning & running.
This. If he can't change direction without losing that speed, he'll get picked apart back there.
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rjokerlsu
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Member since Apr 2007
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| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:38 am to omegaman66)
Are you sure about the can't tackle, hates contact. This does not seem consistent with other reports.
He is still a 3-star recruit & has some good measureables--he is a LA product from a great high school program, John Curtis, that has even better prospects on the way the next few years. So signing him may pay benefits for LSU in the future.
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omegaman66
LSU Fan
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
6530 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 12:58 am to rjokerlsu)
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Are you sure about the can't tackle, hates contact.
No, I am not saying that about him. All I know is his measurable are freaking great. His star rating is not freaking great. I do not know why? Seeking answers as to why his evaluation is not better. What part of his game does not reach a higher level.
Can't tackle and hate contact are just a couple of hypothetical answers someone might give to my question.
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BroadMagnolia
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Stanford, CA
Member since Nov 2011
299 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:20 am to omegaman66)
Part of the star rankings late in the recruiting cycle has to do with which schools have offered you over the cycle, or where you are committed. We picked him up after the final star assignments so he can't get bumped.
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gotygers
LSU Fan
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Member since Sep 2007
2884 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 2:22 am to omegaman66)
He led Curtis with 115 tackles during the regular season!
4a def MVP
He is 3* because he is a little undersized at LB.
Had he played safety he might have been a 4 or5 star .
You cannot base his position on where he plays in high school that's ridiculous ! Players are continuously projected in college at different positions then what they played in high school! ! High school coaches have to place players were they are needed . Didn't Ruben Randle play qb his SR year?
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TheUnderDog
LSU Fan
My Boat
Member since Feb 2011
474 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 7:53 am to gotygers)
FWIW Dandy Don also said he heard he would be given a look at saftey. 
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Nissanmaxima
LSU Fan
Member since Feb 2006
2986 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 7:56 am to TheUnderDog)
Will be looked at Safety. Guys, he does not have to put on 15 to 20 pounds. How big was Chad Jones when he came to LSU and when he left?
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TigerFan2211
LSU Fan
Texas
Member since Jan 2012
497 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:19 am to jeff70121)
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It seems a shame the staff waited this long to offer him a scholly.
B/c he is a natural LB and we really don't need any and if we were going to take any we had our sights on Foster and possibly Beckwith at LB.
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CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 9:07 am to TigerFan2211)
He comes in at fairly decent safety size. He should get a look there, and if he catches on, provide depth for the immediate. His future looks brighter at LB, and as his body develops, Chavis will move him, sort of like what Chavis has done in the past...
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Mr. Brooks
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2013
136 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 9:16 am to CamdenTiger)
Guys he's not going to play safety at LSU.. Our linebackers are all smaller guys but they are fast as shite. That's the only reason he got an offer, he'll be an OLB that should come into the game in passing situations to drop in coverage/come of the edge in a blitzing situation as well. He will not play SS/FS no chance! He'll be a solid special teams guy and will have a decent career at LSU. Just my opinion
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Suntiger 
USA Fan
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
18404 posts
| re: At 6'1" 215lbs. and 4.59 could Duke be the next monster safety (Posted on 1/31/13 at 9:19 am to Mr. Brooks)
This reminds me of the millions of threads on the rant every year asking if Chad Jones was going to be moved to safety.
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