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re: Loomis got a 5 year extension....
Posted on 1/28/13 at 7:24 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 1/28/13 at 7:24 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
Lots of players have been worth a damn and lots of trades and free agents have been worth a damn, it's not mickey's responsibility to develop and make sure talent is used appropriately.
Its hard to develop bad talent.
defensive players drafted under Loomis
2002
Charles Grant 1st gave us some good years
James Allen 3rd- bust
Keyou Craver-4th bust
Mel Mitchell- 5th bust
Derrius Gilmore 7th- bust
2003
Jonathan Sullivan-worst pick in Saints history
Cie Grant- 3rd worthless
Melvin Williams -5th did he even make the team?
2004
Will Smith- gave us some good years.
Courtney Watson- 2nd RD huge bust
Rodney Leslie- 5th RD worthless
Colby Bockwoldt- 7th good ST player
2005
Josh BUllucks- 2nd horrible player
Alfred Fincher- 3rd RD horrible player
Jason Jefferson 6th rd dont think made team
Jimmy Verndon-7th didnt make team
2006
Roman Harper- 2nd league average safety, decent pick
Rob Ninkovich-5th good player now
josh LAy 6th didnt make team i believe
2007
Usama Young- 3rd garbage
David Jones -5th garbage
Marvin Mitchell 7th- really good value for what he was
2008
Sed Ellis-1st serviceable, but not what you want out of a top 10 pick
Tracy Porter 2nd- prob 2nd best DEF pick in his era. Injury prone though
Demarrio Pressley- 5th hyped, no production
2009
Malcon Jenkins-1st serviceable, didnt live up to 14th pick status
Chip Vaughn 4th- worthless
STanley Arnoux 4th worthless
2010
Patrick RObinson- 1st serviceable NFL player
Al Woods 4th didnt even make team
ill reserve judgement on 11'& 12' draft classes
but this is why our defense is so bad.
You bust on top 10 picks like Ellis & Sullivan. You only get serviceable player at 14 overall with Jenkins. ANd the biggest reason of all, the guys in the mid rounds that we have drafted under Loomis have all been worthless. These guys are instrumental to building team depth & occasionally hitting on a pro bowl type player.
Not only did these guys not turn into that, MANY of them couldn't even make the team. Think about that. And you want me to give him a break? No thanks. I didnt like him Pre Payton, and i dont like him now. He cant evaluate talent for shite.
On offense Payton and Brees can mask anything. That is why we have so many late round picks thrive. They'd be garbage on most other teams.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 7:30 pm to Lester Earl
Why is Loomis making personnel calls. I thought he was a glorified accountant.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 7:31 pm to Lester Earl
I'm not going to sit here and bitch about his pre Payton drafts. If you want to call it a learning curve that's fine. We've acquired many good players and some bad ones too. We've had soon to be 4 d coordinators under Payton. Mickey needs stability in coaching and to develop that talent. I'm sure Mickey uses the entire organizational structure for both offense and defense. He gets no praise for offense and all blame on D? That's lame.
Antonio Pittman didn't make team, fire Payton now!
Antonio Pittman didn't make team, fire Payton now!
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 1/28/13 at 7:49 pm to Lester Earl
Lester Earl
He is also the one that brought in Hawthorne, Lofton, Sharper, Vilma, Fujita, Bunkley, S. Rogers, and A. Franklin. Not all guys produced alot, but were considered top at their positions prior to coming here.
He is also the one that brought in Hawthorne, Lofton, Sharper, Vilma, Fujita, Bunkley, S. Rogers, and A. Franklin. Not all guys produced alot, but were considered top at their positions prior to coming here.
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:43 pm to Lester Earl
quote:It is really painful to look at that horrible list of players.
2002
Charles Grant 1st gave us some good years
James Allen 3rd- bust
Keyou Craver-4th bust
Mel Mitchell- 5th bust
Derrius Gilmore 7th- bust
2003
Jonathan Sullivan-worst pick in Saints history
Cie Grant- 3rd worthless
Melvin Williams -5th did he even make the team?
2004
Will Smith- gave us some good years.
Courtney Watson- 2nd RD huge bust
Rodney Leslie- 5th RD worthless
Colby Bockwoldt- 7th good ST player
2005
Josh BUllucks- 2nd horrible player
Alfred Fincher- 3rd RD horrible player
Jason Jefferson 6th rd dont think made team
Jimmy Verndon-7th didnt make team
2006
Roman Harper- 2nd league average safety, decent pick
Rob Ninkovich-5th good player now
josh LAy 6th didnt make team i believe
2007
Usama Young- 3rd garbage
David Jones -5th garbage
Marvin Mitchell 7th- really good value for what he was
2008
Sed Ellis-1st serviceable, but not what you want out of a top 10 pick
Tracy Porter 2nd- prob 2nd best DEF pick in his era. Injury prone though
Demarrio Pressley- 5th hyped, no production
2009
Malcon Jenkins-1st serviceable, didnt live up to 14th pick status
Chip Vaughn 4th- worthless
STanley Arnoux 4th worthless
2010
Patrick RObinson- 1st serviceable NFL player
Al Woods 4th didnt even make team
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