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re: Worst Quarterback to Win a Super Bowl?
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:27 pm to Tactical1
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:27 pm to Tactical1
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Why do you think no one passed it a lot at that point in time?
Joe Namath didn't top attempts once in his entire career in the NFL.
In his 8 seasons in the NFL, he only was in the top 10 in pass attempts twice.
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 1:29 pm
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:33 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Dilfer
Hostetler
Rypien
Bradshaw
Namath
Greise
Hostetler
Rypien
Bradshaw
Namath
Greise
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:36 pm to schexyoung
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C'mon MAN... he was an above average QB in a huge media market who had a few good seasons. He doesn't even sniff the top 25 QBs of all time.
Hey may not be among the greatest as far as stats go, but you can't take away the impact he had on the game. He was the first spread QB, he was also the first NFL celebrity, and he changed how the game was played. It was because of his celebrity, because of his arm, that the NFL moved to make the league more passer friendly, thus paving the way for players like Marino, Montana, Elway, Brees, Brady, etc.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:37 pm to 504hornets
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Jared Lorenzen
Eta: you didn't say starting QB
I didn't notice an edit in your post
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:37 pm to Tiger Ryno
Doug Williams played lights out in their Super Bowl win. He may not have had a stellar career but he was a HUGE reason they blew out Denver.
Hostetler and Dilfer both played in run oriented offenses and neither of them had any big time play making WR's.
Hostetler and Dilfer both played in run oriented offenses and neither of them had any big time play making WR's.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:38 pm to RollTide1987
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Hey may not be among the greatest as far as stats go, but you can't take away the impact he had on the game. He was the first spread QB, he was also the first NFL celebrity, and he changed how the game was played. It was because of his celebrity, because of his arm, that the NFL moved to make the league more passer friendly, thus paving the way for players like Marino, Montana, Elway, Brees, Brady, etc.
Yet again, he wasn't even in the top 10 in attempts in a vast majority of his NFL seasons.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:39 pm to RollTide1987
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you can't take away the impact he had on the game. He was the first spread QB, he was also the first NFL celebrity, and he changed how the game was played. It was because of his celebrity, because of his arm, that the NFL moved to make the league more passer friendly, thus paving the way for players like Marino, Montana, Elway, Brees, Brady, etc.
This has nothing to do with how mediocre he was on the football field.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:41 pm to RollTide1987
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He was the first spread QB, he was also the first NFL celebrity, and he changed how the game was played. It was because of his celebrity, because of his arm, that the NFL moved to make the league more passer friendly, thus paving the way for players like Marino, Montana, Elway, Brees, Brady, etc.
You think Namath alone is to thank for that? What about Johnny Unitas?
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:47 pm to RollTide1987
I agree that he was one of the first big media celebrity QBs. It was the dawn of the sports TV era in a huge media market craving a star.
None of that makes him more than an above average QB. His 1966-68 seasons were great, but everything else hovered around average.
None of that makes him more than an above average QB. His 1966-68 seasons were great, but everything else hovered around average.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:49 pm to schexyoung
As far as Super Bowl winning QBs go, he isn't worse than Trent Dilfer.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:50 pm to craigbiggio
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What about Johnny Unitas
Johnny Unitas is without a doubt the better of the two of them. But Unitas wasn't in the public eye as much as Namath was. Both quarterbacks were considered to be the best the NFL/AFL had to offer at that point in time but Namath got the headlines because the guy wasn't afraid to flaunt himself. I mean...this is a guy who is rumored to have gotten into bed with Jackie Kennedy, post-JFK.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:51 pm to schexyoung
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His 1966-68 seasons were great, but everything else hovered around average.
It might be because his knees finally gave out. He had knee problems quite often while at Alabama and I think it was in the late-60s/early-70s where they finally went bust on him.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:51 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Did Doug Williams even win a regular season game the year he won the SuperBowl?
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:54 pm to RollTide1987
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Johnny Unitas is without a doubt the better of the two of them. But Unitas wasn't in the public eye as much as Namath was. Both quarterbacks were considered to be the best the NFL/AFL had to offer at that point in time but Namath got the headlines because the guy wasn't afraid to flaunt himself. I mean...this is a guy who is rumored to have gotten into bed with Jackie Kennedy, post-JFK.
Are you forgetting Tarkenton, Staubach, Romain Gabriel, Bart Starr, Ken Anderson.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:05 pm to Jcorye1
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Tarkenton
Saw his greatest success in the 70s, long after Namath left his prime.
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Staubach
Didn't come into the league until 1969 and didn't really hit his stride until the mid-70s.
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Romain Gabriel
Never was a league MVP. Namath did that twice around the same time Gabriel was in his prime.
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Bart Starr
Was not nearly the passer Unitas and Namath were. He also was leaving the NFL around the same time Namath was entering it.
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Ken Anderson
Did not enter the prime of his career until the late-70s/early-80s. Namath had been retired from the league by then.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:17 pm to RollTide1987
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Saw his greatest success in the 70s, long after Namath left his prime.
What?
Namath played from 1965 to 1977, so his prime was his first 5 years?
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Didn't come into the league until 1969 and didn't really hit his stride until the mid-70s.
NAMATH WASN'T IN THE NFL UNTIL 1970??!?!?
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Never was a league MVP. Namath did that twice around the same time Gabriel was in his prime.
So, because sportswriters of 40-50 years ago liked Namath better, that's supposed to mean something?
Yet again, Namath never won the MVP of the NFL, only the AFL.
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Did not enter the prime of his career until the late-70s/early-80s. Namath had been retired from the league by then.
They missed eachother by like two years, still the same generation dude.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:23 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
I'll go with Brad Johnson over Dilfer, since he went to FSU. 
Big Ben's performance in SB 40 was pretty bad though. Good thing they had Bill Leavy.
Big Ben's performance in SB 40 was pretty bad though. Good thing they had Bill Leavy.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:28 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Garo Yepremian
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:29 pm to tokenBoiler
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Garo Yepremian
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:29 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Dilfer.
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