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PrimeTime Money Stetson Fan Houston, Texas, USA Member since Nov 2012 2319 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 1:21 pm to Shoulderchoke)
My point is that there is a such thing as lucky knockouts, but not a such thing as a lucky submission. Knockouts happen when you land a punch. Sometimes the punch hits the exact right spot and the lights go out. Sometimes guys can just eat punches and not get knocked out. Knockouts are like homeruns in that you are trying to do your best job of hitting the ball. Sometimes you connect exactly right and you hit it out, but most of the time you don't hit homeruns even if a homerun is your goal. But submissions are like touchdown passes. You see the receiver, and he's open if you put the ball exactly in the right place. It takes an expert quarterback to put it there, but is simply a matter of execution that determines if it will be a touchdown or not. Knockouts are random, like homeruns. If you are a good hitter, then you will hit homeruns more than others... but they are still random. Touchdown passes, like submissions, are not random, and are the result of execution.
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UFownstSECsince1950  Florida Fan Member since Dec 2009 23073 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 1:33 pm to PrimeTime Money)
While I agree with your premise, that is just a terrible analogy 
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Shoulderchoke  Hawaii Fan LaPlasssssssssssss Member since Aug 2008 3457 posts
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| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 1:34 pm to PrimeTime Money)
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My point is that there is a such thing as lucky knockouts, but not a such thing as a lucky submission. Knockouts happen when you land a punch. Sometimes the punch hits the exact right spot and the lights go out. Sometimes guys can just eat punches and not get knocked out. Knockouts are like homeruns in that you are trying to do your best job of hitting the ball. Sometimes you connect exactly right and you hit it out, but most of the time you don't hit homeruns even if a homerun is your goal. But submissions are like touchdown passes. You see the receiver, and he's open if you put the ball exactly in the right place. It takes an expert quarterback to put it there, but is simply a matter of execution that determines if it will be a touchdown or not. Knockouts are random, like homeruns. If you are a good hitter, then you will hit homeruns more than others... but they are still random. Touchdown passes, like submissions, are not random, and are the result of execution.
Ok....
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PrimeTime Money Stetson Fan Houston, Texas, USA Member since Nov 2012 2319 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 1:37 pm to UFownstSECsince1950)
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While I agree with your premise, that is just a terrible analogy
No it isn't.
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Shoulderchoke  Hawaii Fan LaPlasssssssssssss Member since Aug 2008 3457 posts
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| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 1:38 pm to PrimeTime Money)
I wanted to post this to respond to your novel 
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UFownstSECsince1950  Florida Fan Member since Dec 2009 23073 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 1:40 pm to Shoulderchoke)
Watched a couple of Aldo's training videos today, so pumped for this fight. Everything on the line for Edgar, can't wait to see how he deals with those leg kicks.
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Shoulderchoke  Hawaii Fan LaPlasssssssssssss Member since Aug 2008 3457 posts
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| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 1:45 pm to UFownstSECsince1950)
It was weird to not see someone tower over Edgar. I think he can win but he's got to check the leg kicks. If he eats a ton of kicks early, that will kill the cardio advantage he'll have in the later rounds.
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UFownstSECsince1950  Florida Fan Member since Dec 2009 23073 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 2:00 pm to Shoulderchoke)
Yep, and the way he couldn't help but catch Bendo's kicks last fight was kind of telling. I still think Frankie wins by decision, but those first couple rounds will be real interesting.
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SmackDaniels  New Orleans Saints Fan Navarre Beach Member since Mar 2007 10247 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 3:30 pm to Shoulderchoke)
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Maia is not just one of the top BJJ fighters in MMA, he's one of the top BJJ players in the world at any weight

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StraightCashHomey21  West Virginia Fan Ramstein AB Member since Jul 2009 30124 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 5:55 pm to SmackDaniels)
just got back from some local fights, few germans and military members. Guy from my unit lost in a 5 round title fight but saw some nice ko's now its time for some UFC
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Shoulderchoke  Hawaii Fan LaPlasssssssssssss Member since Aug 2008 3457 posts
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| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 5:57 pm to StraightCashHomey21)
"Iiiiiiiiiiiiitttsssss TIME!"
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318Tiger Fan  LSU Fan Shreveport Member since Sep 2007 1826 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:25 pm to Shoulderchoke)
I know it's only the prelims but the Mandalay Bay is empty. If I had tix to a UFC event. I would be there when the doors opened.
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dominustd  LSU Fan La. Member since Oct 2012 974 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:27 pm to 318Tiger Fan)
Vallie-Flagg won that fight.
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SmackDaniels  New Orleans Saints Fan Navarre Beach Member since Mar 2007 10247 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:28 pm to 318Tiger Fan)
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I know it's only the prelims but the Mandalay Bay is empty
No doubt. It's always like that in Vegas.
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CunningLinguist  New Orleans Saints Fan Dallas, TX Member since Mar 2006 12116 posts
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| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:31 pm to SmackDaniels)
One judge who thought Edwards had won.... Looks like we might have some shitty decisions tonight
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318Tiger Fan  LSU Fan Shreveport Member since Sep 2007 1826 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:35 pm to SmackDaniels)
I guess there is so much other shite to do there before the main card. And they have so many events there every year. It not like the other places that only have 1 fight every other year.
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wildtigercat93  LSU Fan Central, LA Member since Jul 2011 25986 posts
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| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:38 pm to 318Tiger Fan)
Cant leave a hot streak 
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318Tiger Fan  LSU Fan Shreveport Member since Sep 2007 1826 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:42 pm to wildtigercat93)
I read on the UG that volkmann didn't make weight and was 157lbs. The official weight just then was 156lbs
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wildtigercat93  LSU Fan Central, LA Member since Jul 2011 25986 posts
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| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:46 pm to 318Tiger Fan)
This is a slaughter so far
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318Tiger Fan  LSU Fan Shreveport Member since Sep 2007 1826 posts

| re: UFC 156 - Frankie Edgar vs. Jose Aldo for the FW Belt --------------- (2/2/13) (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:48 pm to wildtigercat93)
Volkmann will cover him for the night like a blanket if he gets the chance. He did stay very active though.
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