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re: Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt?

Posted on 1/27/13 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by Da #1 Stunna
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 7:46 pm to
Gladiator was an excellent movie. Cast was great. The story was very good and the action was excellent and believable.

While I like Troy and find it entertaining (I actually own both DVD's), it was a cheap imitation. Pitt was ok, Bana was very good. Bloom was pathetic as always. The guy they chose to be the King of Troy was TERRIBLE. His character was a weakling and he had plastic surgery (Bruce Jenner) eyes.

The difference between the 2 movies can be summed up in 1 scene of Troy. The scene where they are having a big battle and Achilles is on strike to make a point to the king. So the big epic war scene is raging on with carnage everywhere and suddenly Achilles' cousin shows up dressed as Achilles. At that point the entire epic war scene stops on a dime and Bana and the cousin dressed as Achilles go one on one. Completely unrealistic and made a great scene a total farce.

I love Gladiator. I like Troy.
Posted by JohnnyBgood
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 8:13 pm to
An even better question is who would win in a one on one fight, Achilles or Maximus??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 9:10 pm to
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The guy they chose to be the King of Troy was TERRIBLE.

this may be the first time peter o'toole has been referred to as "that guy"
Posted by Ender1314
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

The difference between the 2 movies can be summed up in 1 scene of Troy. The scene where they are having a big battle and Achilles is on strike to make a point to the king. So the big epic war scene is raging on with carnage everywhere and suddenly Achilles' cousin shows up dressed as Achilles. At that point the entire epic war scene stops on a dime and Bana and the cousin dressed as Achilles go one on one. Completely unrealistic and made a great scene a total farce.


Maybe you should read a few history books.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 6:41 pm to
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The guy they chose to be the King of Troy was TERRIBLE.


You mean Peter O'Toole? One of the best actors of all time? He wasn't very good in this role, but you should at least know his name. The man is a fricking legend.

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So the big epic war scene is raging on with carnage everywhere and suddenly Achilles' cousin shows up dressed as Achilles. At that point the entire epic war scene stops on a dime and Bana and the cousin dressed as Achilles go one on one. Completely unrealistic and made a great scene a total farce.


The thing is, this was war in ancient Greece. Personal glory was all that mattered. The idea of a phalanx was generations away. In the Iliad, it made sense that the two most renowned warriors of the age would square off against each other to settle who was the better. It may be unrealistic to the modern state of war and the modern mind, but that was the way battles were fought in Homer's works.
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 6:43 pm
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