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Big Sway
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


He reminded me of Piere Thomas vs San Fran
a couple years back! Piere got hit at the 2 and
folded with a broken jaw and was also knocked
out.






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saintsfan92612
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


couple years back? That was last January





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LSU82BILL
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


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Actually you need to re-watch.

Coleman's helmet was nearly ripped off by the blocker he was engaged with right before he shed the block and went for the tackle.


It doesn't change the fact that Richardson led with the crown of his helmet - something that defenders are not allowed to do. And somebody needs to explain to me how a defender can get flagged for incidentally grabbing a RB's facemask while the rules allow a RB to use a stiff arm to jam the facemask down the throat of anybody trying to tackle him.






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AlwysATgr
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


I think MeauxJeaux got it right with what happened with Coleman. I can't fault Trent for that.

OTOH, I agree that ball carriers should not be privileged w.r.t. face masks.






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JermStone
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I think the most disturbing thing wasn't just the bird arms, it was how he folded over so easily while obviously unconscious. he's got to be one limber dude to bend like that





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MikeD
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


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I was fairly amazed that a "helmet to helmet" penalty was not called. It was one of the clearest helmet to helmet hits I've seen in a while, but not even any mention by the talking heads. Nothing. Oh well. Get well Ridley!


Runners are not considered defenseless players by the NFL and therefore no helmet to helmet penalty should have been called. It was the correct no-call.






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Scabby4LSU
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


Damn...





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Lester Earl
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


Bernard Pollard is an alpha male. No shame in getting crushed





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dcrews
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


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You need to re-watch this video, Coleman isn't wearing his helmet correctly at all, his chinstrap is up on his nose by the time he takes the hit.


Irrelevant. It should have been a flag on Richardson for intentional helmet to helmet contact

As for ridley, he lowered his head into the defenders helmet. Per the rules, shouldn't he be flagged and fined? (per the rules. I personally don't think he should)

Even the defenders get flagged and fined if it was just an accident.

They need to tweak the rule






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tiger in the gump
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


Helmet to helmet is called for "defenseless" players. Richardson wasn't defenseless





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lsueddie18
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


Definition
A helmet to helmet hit is when a player uses his helmet to strike an opposing player in the helmet. Due to the severe nature of the injuries that can occur as a result of this type of hit, helmet to helmet hits are penalties in the NFL, whether incidental or deliberate. Defensively, helmet to helmet penalties are usually flagged during the process of making a tackle. However, the penalty can also be enforced on an offensive player making a block or a defensive player making a block after a turnover.



Read more: NFL Rules & Regulations for Helmet to Helmet | eHow.com LINK






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BACONisMEATcandy
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


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Not dropping his head would have been a great choice to make.






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GeauxTigerTM
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


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Definition
A helmet to helmet hit is when a player uses his helmet to strike an opposing player in the helmet. Due to the severe nature of the injuries that can occur as a result of this type of hit, helmet to helmet hits are penalties in the NFL, whether incidental or deliberate. Defensively, helmet to helmet penalties are usually flagged during the process of making a tackle. However, the penalty can also be enforced on an offensive player making a block or a defensive player making a block after a turnover.


This underlines my point from earlier. By rule, they are saying that they are ok with a runner lowering the crown of his helmet into the defender. It's specifically not addressed when talking about how an offensive players can be flagged. That's bad enough on its face, because it puts the runner in a position for injuries both to his neck and his head...but it ALSO puts the defender in a position to end up with a helmet to helmet call when he goes in with his shoulder/helmet and makes contact with the first thing coming at him...the runner's lid, or take a shot in the chest or face from a runner allowed to use his helmet as a weapon.

Eventually you'll have a high profile defender get tired of this shite and start talking about it and the rule will be amended to reflect this double standard. Until then, hopefully no runners get hurt doing this shite.






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GeauxTigerTM
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


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You need to re-watch this video, Coleman isn't wearing his helmet correctly at all, his chinstrap is up on his nose by the time he takes the hit.


I'm not suggesting the hit by Trent was bad because it launched the defenders helmet into the air...I'm saying it was bad because he lead with the crown of his helmet. If the NFL, and by extension the NCAA, is serious about player safety, the this type of action ought to be dealt with as severely as any defender leading with the crown of his helmet. In many cases, it's precisely what initiates the helmet to helmet calls in the first place, as an offensive guy lowers his head and a defender's only option is to hit him there.






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tt54l32v
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NFL Needs a Culture Change to Eliminate All Helmet-to-Helmet HitsBy Dan Levy(National Lead Writer) on January 21, 2013 11,107 reads
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Following his team's victory in the AFC title game, Ravens head coach John Harbaugh was asked about the fumble-inducing hit Bernard Pollard put on Patriots running back Stevan Ridley in the fourth quarter of a then-one-score game, and he called the play "football at its finest."

The NFL has a problem. Football has a problem. The culture of the entire sport has to change before the careers—heck, lives—of more players get ruined.

Per NFL rules, the hit was not a penalty. Pollard was going for a tackle when Ridley lowered his head to brace for impact. The helmet-to-helmet contact was incidental, drawing no flag because the NFL rules do not protect running backs the same way they protect quarterbacks and receivers.

The play may have been clean, but it was not football at its finest.

Ridley fumbled the ball after impact with Pollard because he was knocked cold from the blow, causing his arm to go limp and the ball to fall out of his grasp as he collapsed to the turf.

The NFL is a league where the rules prohibit the ground from causing a fumble, but knocking a player out is completely within the rules.







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makinskrilla
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


Dude, that Richardson hit was beastly.





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GeauxTigerTM
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


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Dude, that Richardson hit was beastly.


Did I say it wasn't? He absolutely trucked that guy...but he did it with his face down and the crown of his helmet buried into the facemask of the defender. I brought it up as an example of how the NFL has a double standard when it comes to helmet to helmet contact...

Either the NFL is serious about player safety, or it isn't. I submit it isn't.

But yeah...just like this hit by Earl Campbell, the hit itself was absolutely incredible. Doesn't make either good for the sport if the goal is to help prevent head and neck injuries.

LINK







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Nick Papa Georgio
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


Bleacher Report Article on his concussion and the natural reaction of the nervous system...

I wish it hadn't happened to Ridley but this is an interesting read on the body's reaction to brain trauma and how his was a textbook concussion.

LINK






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GeauxGus
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re: Re-watching the hit on Ridley last night is brutal


" .. Runners are not considered defenseless players by the NFL and therefore no helmet to helmet penalty should have been called. It was the correct no-call... "
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... then that is terribly wrong , and needs to be changed. Good grief. Not "defenseless" ? How does one "defend" against a helmet-to-helmet shot to the head ? And don't give me that "Ridley lowered his head" . Runners do that to get the last yard , he wasn't "aiming" , trying to cold cock the defender on the helmet/head.






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Penrod
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Had the hit gone in reverse and the defender had hit Richardson in the jaw with the crown of his helmet, the guy would have been flagged and then fined.


I thought not. I thought it's only against a defenseless ball carrier (eg a WR looking back for the ball).






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