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LooseCannon22282
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oh, didn't catch that part. I wonder what gives with that. I guess Wednesday will be the bread winner then.

There is some new leadership for this game now. Phil Savage, the former Browns GM, is now the executive director. I don't know if this is his doing or not.

I've never seen the teams not practice in pads on Tuesday before. But then again, think about how different practices are in the NFL now...

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Also, it's weird the University of Texas and Southern Cal/UCLA are part of the North team.



that has always puzzled some of the locals like myself too






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LooseCannon22282
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Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan (6071, 297 and 4.95 E): Perhaps the player in position to make the most money at the Senior Bowl, I believe Fisher will play so well that he will secure a spot in the top ten. When Jake Matthews and Taylor Lewan choose to return to school for their senior season, Fisher was given the opportunity to jump up and claim the spot as the number two OT. Possessing excellent height and long arms, Fisher has rare athleticism for a 6’7 OT. He makes it look easy sliding out to protect the corner vs edge rushers, can re-direct and slide in the other direction to handle quick pass rush moves back underneath and is outstanding pulling and adjusting to block out in space. Considered a better OT prospect than former Central Michigan OT Joe Staley, Fisher could lock up a spot in the top ten with a dominating week in Mobile.



sounds like Fisher has already turned some heads here so far. Of course there is the other guy from Texas A&M who will probably lock up a top ten spot also(maybe even a top 3). But if anything Fisher, he has gotten off to a good start.

This will be a key because a team like the Cardinals who have a shitty O-line will give this kid a long look. They pick at #8.

Just another pick that could be an offensive player that would allow a good defensive player to fall to us



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here is a little something on Ansah.

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Ansah was very impressive during one-on-one as he not only demonstrated the explosiveness needed to take the edge, but was also able to convert speed to power against Xavier Nixon when he overset the edge. He looked like a quick twitch athlete today as he consistently displayed outstanding first step quickness. In addition, he demonstrated sound recognition skills on a rep during team period, where he was unable to penetrate but got his hand up to bat down a pass.




figured I'd leave that here seeing how the South team didn't get any air time on TV because they practiced across the bay in Fairhope. Both teams will be back at Ladd Stadium tomorrow though.



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more notes from another Day 1 standout:

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Of anyone on the field, the guy who had the best practice was North Carolina's Sylvester Williams. He has strong, powerful hands and had a tackle for a loss in nine-on-seven. His combination of quickness and power -- with his hands and his feet -- is really disruptive. He had four or five opportunities -- although you can't tackle -- to blow up the play in the backfield. He is a guy who performed like a first-rounder and if he keeps playing like this, he'll elevate his stock. The way he played today -- he was the best.


he is a defensive tackle fwiw.




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Ansah just got stonewalled twice in 1v1's against the RT from La Tech.





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they were talking about how raw he is. As far as a quick burst off the edge, he is good to go. But he is going to need to work on other parts of his game. Once that tackle got his hands on him, he was done.

Edit: he had a nice spin move on that first rep though.



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http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlreport.htm-

My personal favorite of the group was CHASE THOMAS/Stanford. The OLB prospect was incredible agile and light on his feet. I know it may sound crazy but at time his feet seemed to just glide around the bags used for footwork drills. He was also one of the fastest players through the drills. He later looked very agile in pass drop drills and 7-on-7 action. Although we didn’t see it today because of the lack of pads THOMAS has also shown good pass-rush ability throughout his college career. I think he is legitimately one of our most solid First Round candidates in this game.

--thought he was unlikely in the 3rd, pretty confirmed and won't follow now

Until Bushrod is re-signed or another UDFA this guy is in the #15 mix-

Best player on the North squad on the first day, though, was Central Michigan OT Eric Fisher. Fisher came to Mobile as arguably the top-rated prospect in the Senior Bowl and showed why as he consistently took his man out of the play in in pass-protection drills. Fisher was light on his feet with excellent lateral agility, although he did on occasion allow defenders to get into his pads and gave up too much penetration. That suggests that angular Fisher who measured in at 6-7, 305 in the morning weigh-in needs to get bigger and stronger, but appears to have the frame to add another 15-20 pounds.

HERE is teams observed doing some one on one talk with players.
For the Saints:
CB Leon McFadden
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LB Zavier Gooden
Zaviar Gooden, OLB, Missouri
Height: 6-2. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.60.
Projected Round (2013): 5-7.
12/15/12: Gooden missed the games against Arizona State and Central Florida. He had 61 tackles, an interception and four tackles for a loss this year. Gooden didn't compete well against South Carolina and Alabama. It was a disappointing senior season from Gooden.

8/29/12: Zavier Gooden was Missouri's replacement for Sean Weatherspoon in 2010, and the sophomore had a solid debut. He led Missouri with 85 tackles, 7.5 tackles for a loss, three sacks, one forced fumble, two interceptions and two fumbles recovered.
Gooden didn't elevate his level of play as a junior as he recorded 80 tackles with six tackles for loss and two interceptions. He needs a big senior season in order to be a second-day pick.
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Until Bushrod is re-signed or another UDFA this guy is in the #15 mix- Best player on the North squad on the first day, though, was Central Michigan OT Eric Fisher. Fisher came to Mobile as arguably the top-rated prospect in the Senior Bowl and showed why as he consistently took his man out of the play in in pass-protection drills. Fisher was light on his feet with excellent lateral agility, although he did on occasion allow defenders to get into his pads and gave up too much penetration. That suggests that angular Fisher who measured in at 6-7, 305 in the morning weigh-in needs to get bigger and stronger, but appears to have the frame to add another 15-20 pounds.


he is off to a good start here from what I've read/heard. With a team like the Cardinals picking at #8, I'm not sure we would be able to land him. The Cardinals need A LOT of help on their O-line. Then again, they could surprise us all and pick a QB.






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Seems like QB is a bigger ? than usual this year. First we gotta see how free agency plays out. Plenty of decent QBs that could fill some of the holes...

Matt Flynn
Matt Cassel
Michael Vick
Matt Moore
Alex Smith
etc






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it was tough to really see much of Ansah today. I was going to go down there today but we had a long morning at work off-loading a ship.

got the day off tomorrow though. So far, the NFL Network is only airing one hour of each team's practice. You aren't really able to watch a whole lot from that.

Mayock and Charles Davis were talking with some other scout about Ansah and they kept mentioning how raw he is. They were saying the JPP comparisons were not legit. And how JPP was much more fluid and could bend more when engaging blockers. I guess they meant he could dip his shoulder and get underneath blocks better? I don't know.

That report from yesterday seems like it contradicts what we saw on TV today. It is just too small of a sample size to really tell. But that first rep they showed him doing, he had a real quick spin move around the offensive tackle.



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HERE is teams observed doing some one on one talk with players.
For the Saints:
CB Leon McFadden


you know, the afternoon Sports Drive show(local Mobile radio show on WNSP) actually were talking this kid up pretty good this afternoon. The hosts of the show have talked with some of the scouts this week and he has been singled out for his quick footwork. Another guy they talked about was Desmond Trufant who is the younger brother of Marcus Trufant.

another player who might not be as high profile but has made a mark so far is Datone Jones the DE from UCLA. They were talking about how he has that consistent effort that scouts are looking for. Effort wise, they say he reminds them of Mike Martin, the DT from Michigan who played here last year.

one guy who hasn't really found his way yet is Margus Hunt, the giant DE from SMU. They were saying how his strength isn't the problem, it is more of a speed issue. But wouldn't he be an awesome guy to have to block some kicks or bat down passes at the line of scrimmage? I mean the guy is 6 feet 8 inches tall. and he has the long arms. Makes me think of Ted Hendricks from all of those older NFL Films.



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Tue notes-

Eric Fisher is a true talent: It is easy to see the skill set the LT brings to the field. Fisher has great flexibility, power in his base and is strong on the initial punch. The Central Michigan product stands out in One-on-One drills and plays with technique. That sells in Mobile when you can consistently win matchups in front of the entire league. There is no question Fisher carries a first round grade and I would bet he is climbing up some draft boards.

Keep an eye on safety Jonathan Cyprien: The FIU product stood out on the practice field and is built like an NFL safety. Cyprien took good angles to the ball and he was physical at the point of attack on Tuesday. A player to watch the rest of the week.

Lane Johnson: The Oklahoma offensive tackle has top tier athletic ability, good feet and moves well in pass pro. The question: can he add some more size to his frame? One scout told me he would like to put 10 pounds on Johnsion.

USC safety TJ McDonald: Scouts aren't sold on his game tape, but McDonald showed some range on Tuesday, the ability to flip the hips in coverage and he wasn’t shy about setting his pads on the edge. I know McDonald is stiff in his pedal and needs to come out of his breaks with more speed. However, looking at his size (6-2), I see the USC safety as an interesting player.

Tue Strugglers-
Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin (6061, 310 and 5.25): Wagner struggled again today, as he lacked quickness off the ball and was too passive with his hands, resulting in him getting literally bull rushed into the QB on one occasion. Like yesterday, he tended to stop his feet on contact against speed rushers, duck his head and get beaten around the edge. This week he has looked like a day three prospect despite being a multi-year starter Wisconsin.

Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia (6052, 310 and 5.15): Despite displaying smooth athleticism and body control, Aboushi was not aggressive with his hands today and allowed pass rushers to get into his chest and jolt him at the POA. His lack of aggressiveness with his hands also enabled defenders to beat him with secondary pass rush moves both inside and out. Throughout practice he struggled to change directions against quick pass rushers.

Tue Shiners-
Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan (6072, 305 and 4.80): Fisher looks the part of an NFL starting left tackle, as he not only has the size and length to play the position, but throughout practice today displayed excellent athleticism and competitiveness. He flashed solid power on drive blocks and was shockingly fluid and quick in space. He did a great job of using his hands to get a good fit on blocks and was highly competitive throughout practice. Our one issue with his play today was his tendency to block upright, which leaves him susceptible to bull rushes and hinder his ability to redirect back inside.

Kawann Short, DT, Purdue (6032, 308 and 4.85): Short displayed excellent strength and initial quickness which allowed him to press the pocket with an aggressive bull rush. Impressive hand quickness and strength made him very productive against blockers today and was essentially unblockable during one-on-one drills.

Datone Jones, DE, UCLA (6041, 280 and 4.75): During one-on-one drills Jones showed the ability to win with quickness and misdirection as well as pure power on a bull rush move. This was even more impressive because he defeated Eric Fisher with one quick and explosive inside pass rush move and drove Fisher back into the pocket on an aggressive bull rush. He also displayed a very good first step, which allowed him to press the edge on the pass rush. Jones was most impressive when using his hands to defeat blockers, as he displayed the violence and quickness needed to keep blockers off balance and off his frame.

Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma (6062, 302 and 4.95): Johnson had another strong performance today as he showed very good quickness out of his stance and into his set and in general displayed excellent athleticism. Like yesterday, he used his hands well to get a strong, inside fit in pass protection. Playing strength is a concern, as he was jolted backward on multiple occasions, however he showed the great trait of being able to reset and anchor after initially being knocked off the POA. Johnson was also effective sliding side to side with excellent base, which allowed him to maintain pass blocks.

Cornelius Washington, DE, Georgia (6040, 264 and 4.75): Despite jumping offsides on several snaps and drawing the ire of Detroit’s defensive line coach, Washington had a very impressive day overall. He was quick off the ball and showed the ability to change directions and beat blockers with quickness inside. His most impressive trait was his violent hands, which allowed him to bull rush blockers and collapse the pocket.






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trying to stay on players that might be relevant to the Saints...
more Tuesday reports-

ODAY ABOUSHI/T/Virginia. No way to sugar coat it, but he was just awful. He was a tick too slow out of his stance and got run over by big guys, and run around by faster guys. I had felt coming in that he was just a half-notch below guys like WAGNER, FISHER and PUGH. Based on today he’s light years behind them. I knew he was not a “strong man”, but I thought he showed athleticism and good feet during his college career. It just didn’t happen for him today. In fact it got so bad during 11-on-11 work that he even failed to react and come off a double team block to pick up a rushing LB. He’s got a lot of work to do the rest of this week to erase today’s debacle.

While the Sooners’ Johnson held serve so to speak, it did not appear as if BYU DE Ziggy Ansah was able to do the same. Ansah, the Ghanian immigrant who only took up football after coming to the US as a track athlete, showed plenty of athleticism and effort, as well as some rudimentary pass rush moves, but otherwise appeared to be searching for answers. In particular, Ansah got stuffed on at least three occasions by Louisiana Tech OT Jordan Mills, a late addition who had his hands full with several other lesser known DEs. One of the latter was Georgia’s Cornelius Washington, a proverbial whirling dervish who was tough to block, but also appeared to be playing out of control at times.

It’s also been a disappointing week so far for SMU DE Margus Hunt, who certainly looks the part, but so far he’s just been popping up out of his stance and looking for the ball and has shown little upfield acceleration. The 6-8 Jones has also struggled to keep his pads down and as such blockers have been able to consistently get into his legs.

Best player on the field for the North on Tuesday may have been Purdue DT Kawann Short, who was in the backfield on just about every play today. In fact, no one has ever questioned Short’s physical tools, but his grade has been all over the place this season because of a sometimes inconsistent motor; for whatever reason, though, Short has had the ‘on’ button engaged since they walked on the field on Monday.







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Margus Hunt, DE, SMU (6082, 277 and 4.80): Today Hunt showed flashes of what makes him such an intriguing prospect, but generally was ineffective because of his still very raw skillset. While he demonstrated the ability to lock out against blockers and control the POA, he was unable to shed blocks in time to get involved with plays, and generally was not effective with his hands. He also displayed an explosive first step off the ball but tended to get upright once on the edge, allowing his blocker to recover easily and get into his frame. Despite clearly being a physical talent, it is difficult to imagine Hunt will be a first round pick in April as some have previously hypothesized.

Robert Lester, SAF, Alabama (6012, 212 and 4.60): Lester has had a rough week in Mobile and simply looks outmatched athletically. Today struggled to stay with TEs and failed to locate the ball in coverage once he turned his back to the QB. He looked stiff and mechanical changing directions and struggled to locate the ball on run plays.

Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington (5111, 190 and 4.45): Trufant displayed smooth hips transitioning out of his pedal and was very patient with his technique in man coverage. He showed the ability to click and close in front of him, and when in man coverage downfield was able to quickly locate and make plays on the ball. Yesterday we were impressed with his closing speed and he flashed this again today, as he was able to consistently stay with his man in space.

Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina (6026, 213 and 5.00): Williams was impressive during one-on-ones today and during the team period when rushing the passer, as he displayed a quick first step combined with a variety of rips and spins, which allowed him to defeat his man at the LOS. He flashed the agility needed to dip underneath his man, but struggled to shed blockers once tied up.

Shawn Williams, SAF, Georgia (5117, 211 and 4.60): Williams showed solid read and react skills today and was aggressive attacking the LOS once he read run plays. He displayed adequate speed covering TEs and receivers during one-on-one drills. He was very physical at the POA and delivered huge hits on Miami RB Mike James and Stanford RB Stepfan Taylor.






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CB Desmond Trufant: Smooth footwork, quick hips and he displayed the ability to play press-man in 1-on-1 drills. I thought Trufant played with a little swagger to his game and wanted to compete throughout the session on Wednesday. You can see the talent watching the CB change direction and drive on the ball.

BYU’s Ezekial Ansah: The DE has speed coming off the ball and I can see why scouts are drawn to his athleticism. But like most of the pass rushers down here in Mobile, Ansah has to develop his technique. Move past the bull rush, attack the edge of the blocker and use your hands to create leverage to the QB.

DE Margus Hunt: The SMU product hasn’t had a great week of practice, but the opportunity to develop his skill set has to be attractive to NFL clubs given his size (6-8, 277). Hunt must develop counter moves when he gets on the edge of blockers and he needs pro coaching at the point of attack. Raw talent.

Small school DT: Brandon Williams from Missouri Southern had a burst off the ball in 1-on-1 drills, displayed quick hands and plays hard. Keep an eye on him throughout the draft process.






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Datone Jones, DE, UCLA (6041, 280 and 4.75): During one-on-one drills Jones showed the ability to win with quickness and misdirection as well as pure power on a bull rush move. This was even more impressive because he defeated Eric Fisher with one quick and explosive inside pass rush move and drove Fisher back into the pocket on an aggressive bull rush. He also displayed a very good first step, which allowed him to press the edge on the pass rush. Jones was most impressive when using his hands to defeat blockers, as he displayed the violence and quickness needed to keep blockers off balance and off his frame.


Saw some of his drills against Fisher, I think he is a player to watch.






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