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re: "Offense is the problem"
Posted on 1/15/13 at 4:33 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 1/15/13 at 4:33 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
ETA: typo, average starting field position was just past the 42 yard line
2011: LSU ranked 13th in the country for best starting field position on drives ending in touchdowns (22nd on all drives)
2006: LSU ranked 66th in the country for best starting field position on drives ending in touchdowns (90th on all drives)
ok, I imported the drive data from CFB into mysql and ran the queries. Let's dig a little deeper...
First of all, your rankings are skewed because the data contained FCS/Other division teams who probably only had 1 game worth of data in the record set. For example, ranked first based on average starting spot in 2006 is Wofford, with 1 game in the dataset.
Second, using actual starting position for all drives, the following data was returned from the query...
2006 - 69.357 / 30.6 yard line
2011 - 66.392 / 33.6 yard line
Where drives end in touchdown, drive length / starting spot
2006 - 61.682 / 38.3 yard line
2011 - 57.857 / 42.1 yard line
So we have a 3 yard difference in overall starting position, and a 3.8 yard difference in TD drive starting position. Not much of a story here...
This database is cool, thanks unknown for the info on this...digging a little deeper into the 3 yard difference in 06 and 11. In 2011, kickoffs were from the 30, in 2006 they were from the 35. This had the following impact...
Touchbacks on Kickoffs
2006 - 19
2011 - 6
Avg Starting Position After Kickoff
2006 - 22.1
2011 - 25
Hmm, basically a 3 yard difference. In looking at drives starting inside the 20...
2006 - 56 drives, 11 TD's, 19.64%
2011 - 46 drives, 9 TD's, 19.57%
adding Field Goals
2006 - 6 fgs, 30.36% Scoring
2011 - 3 fgs, 26% Scoring
This post was edited on 1/15/13 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 1/15/13 at 4:35 pm to ForeLSU
quote:
Not much of a story here...
Other than in 2006 we had the #1 overall NFL pick playing QB and in 2011, we had the circus still in town.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:08 pm to ForeLSU
2006 we averaged 6.6 yards per play on offense. 7th in the country.
2011 we averaged around ~5.6 yards per play lower than 50th in the country.
So there is one mighty big difference there. And to say 3 yards difference in starting field position is not a big deal is misleading. Especially when those three yards mean you are top 10 ranked or 70th ranked in the country.
2011 we averaged around ~5.6 yards per play lower than 50th in the country.
So there is one mighty big difference there. And to say 3 yards difference in starting field position is not a big deal is misleading. Especially when those three yards mean you are top 10 ranked or 70th ranked in the country.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:09 pm to ForeLSU
a couple more data points....
no doubt 2011 had more opportunities from close in. Here are possessions starting at the 50 or closer....
2006 - 21 drives, 12 tds, 2 fgs (67% scoring)
2011 - 34 drives, 19 tds, 6 fgs (73.5% scoring)
On the other hand...punting and 3-outs
2006 - 39 punts / 23 3-outs
2011 - 67 punts / 37 3-outs
no doubt 2011 had more opportunities from close in. Here are possessions starting at the 50 or closer....
2006 - 21 drives, 12 tds, 2 fgs (67% scoring)
2011 - 34 drives, 19 tds, 6 fgs (73.5% scoring)
On the other hand...punting and 3-outs
2006 - 39 punts / 23 3-outs
2011 - 67 punts / 37 3-outs
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