re: Offense vs Defense in the NFL? Which wins championships?

Posted on 1/11/13 at 4:00 pm to Jcorye1

Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker

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Posted on 1/11/13 at 4:00 pm to Jcorye1

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Thats your problem there.

Use scoring defense, it's a much better indicator.

I just used a basic metric. But turns out, the evidence doesn't change much using scoring D. So, I don't know what the problem was or what point you were trying to make. Because, in fact, using scoring defense makes the argument that "defense wins championships" even stronger:

(total offense)/(total defense/scoring defense)

Strong D:

_(9) / (5/_2) 2010 Green Bay
(22) / (1/_1) 2008 Steelers
(16) / (7/17) 2007 Giants
(15) / (4/_3) 2005 Steelers
_(7) / (9/_3) 2004 Patriots <- just a great team on both sides of the ball
(17) / (7/_1) 2003 Patriots
(24) / (1/_1) 2002 Buccaneers
(19) / (8/_6) 2001 Patriots
(16) / (2/_1) 2000 Ravens

Strong O:

_(8) / (27/25) 2011 Giants
_(1) / (25/20) 2009 Saints
_(3) / (21/23) 2006 Colts

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Posted by Jcorye1

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Posted on 1/11/13 at 4:02 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker

It makes it almost essential to be a top 5 scoring defense.

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Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker

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Posted on 2/8/13 at 9:27 am to Archie Bengal Bunker

Update for B-more, which on paper, looks to be one of the more average teams to win it in awhile:

(total offense)/(total defense/scoring defense)

(10) / (17/12) 2012 Baltimore Ravens

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Strong D:

_(9) / (5/_2) 2010 Green Bay
(22) / (1/_1) 2008 Steelers
(16) / (7/17) 2007 Giants
(15) / (4/_3) 2005 Steelers
_(7) / (9/_3) 2004 Patriots <- just a great team on both sides of the ball
(17) / (7/_1) 2003 Patriots
(24) / (1/_1) 2002 Buccaneers
(19) / (8/_6) 2001 Patriots
(16) / (2/_1) 2000 Ravens

Strong O:

_(8) / (27/25) 2011 Giants
_(1) / (25/20) 2009 Saints
_(3) / (21/23) 2006 Colts