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re: No MLB players elected to the HOF

Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:38 pm to
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Who had the higher OPS+, a stat adjusted for context?



This is the part where I have trouble with the numbers people produce to compare different eras.

Lifetime Biggio and Ryne had near identical OPS - and yet you seem to conclude Biggio was better adjusted for his era? I think you generally try to be fair so shouldn't you notice you have (inadvertently?) picked an statistic which misrepresents the comparative careers of both players?

How can this possibly be when we (I think or we're done debating I guess) understand the 80s were an era where OPS, HR, BA were greatly lowered compared to the modern steroid era? You have to have made a major mistake or used a lousy means of adjustment
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:44 pm to
OPS+ is different from OPS. OPS+ is specifically adjusted for ballpark and league average. It is on a scale in which 100 is league average. Biggio's 136 OPS+ in his peak means that he was 36% better than league average at a neutral park (actually 18%, but let's not get into that statistical problem).

I use OPS+ and ERA+ when comparing across era for this exact reason. It "normalizes" the stat and put people on the same level. It's not perfect, but it is a good tool to compare across time.
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