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re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012

Posted on 1/9/13 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/9/13 at 1:52 pm to
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What exactly does it exemplify?

Should rare beers not be rated on their site?


It's not that they shouldn't be rated. But the sample size is by and large small on the grand scale. It dilutes a "rating system" per se.


It's like Bo Jackson. Albeit one of the greatest athletes of all time, will never be in the hall of fame. his sample size is too small to accredit it

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People are naturally going to be homers. But you think people are deliberately over-rating beers for that purpose?

I guess we missed the bus on Abita.


People definitely do this. I recall a few years back a very small west coast brewery released something and it was nothing special yet all the ratings were high, and all were from BA's trying to used it as trade bait. Can't recall the exact beer, it was about 4 years ago.

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It's BA's fault that they make 4 versions of it?


Not at all, I just think it becomes kinda stupid to that point. If one is doing a "Top 100" they shouldn't be admitted imo.

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If that's what people like... then what's the problem?


That's fine. I just think there is too much of it. It's like paying $28 for a 750ml of Brooklyn Black Ops. I can name you about 10 other stouts for 1/2 to 1/3 the price that I would rate higher. I find it to be more of a "it's barrel aged so its special" = better beer kind of issue. It's like everyone is just trying to be really weird instead of just striving for quality beer.
This post was edited on 1/9/13 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
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Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:29 pm to
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It's like paying $28 for a 750ml of Brooklyn Black Ops. I can name you about 10 other stouts for 1/2 to 1/3 the price that I would rate higher
i'm listening....
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:38 pm to
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It's like paying $28 for a 750ml of Brooklyn Black Ops. I can name you about 10 other stouts for 1/2 to 1/3 the price that I would rate higher. I find it to be more of a "it's barrel aged so its special" = better beer kind of issue. It's like everyone is just trying to be really weird instead of just striving for quality beer.


Brooklyn Black Ops has a 93 rating on Beer Advocate.

Below I'm listing the BA ratings of the list you came up with:

Stone RIS 97
Old Rasputin 96
Alesmith Speedway Stout 98
Goose Island BCS 100
Brooklyn BCS 93
Terrapin Wake and Bake 95
Great Divide Yeti 95
Oskar Blues Ten Fidy 97
Port Santa's Helper 90
Abyss 100

So only 1 in your list is rated below Black Ops. Doesn't this kind of give Beer Advocate some sort of credibility?

I happen to agree that the Port Santa's Little Helper is the weakest of that group. I just had it last month. And I REALLY enjoyed the Barrel aged version better, though it only rates an 86 on BA. I've had it twice, once with several people on this thread and nearly everyone loved it. At least they liked it better than a BA 86. It held its own versus Parabola, which we had immediately afterward.
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