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re: What do the Miles supporters believe it will take to actually develop a legit QB
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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LSU- Jmarc, Flynn, RP now they dont have good qb play
Josh booty and Marcus randall?
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The fans, and most everyone else has figured out it isn't the QB's.
That wasnt the point. The point was originally to show were were passing the ball more now, which in my mind is why we didnt have as good rushing stats. Obviously.
The point is also to show that the offense actually has changed when a diff qb was the starter. And they have also looked diff uner the 3 diff ocs.
But im not going to sit here and say LSU is the only one that has had qb problems. That shite seems to go in cycles for every team regardless of the coach.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:36 pm to coolmonk
I think it is more about predictability with Mettenberger. Everyone knows when we will pass and when we will run. I remember a couple games where we had to max protect and have 2 man routes. If we could have more options and use them consistently it would open the field. I say a combo of things.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:40 pm to dgnx6
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LSU- Jmarc, Flynn, RP now they dont have good qb play
Josh booty and Marcus randall?
I wouldn't call them a "string of bad QB's." There was decent QB play in between.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:45 pm to Double Down
Intensity and commitment!! He is coasting and having fun-he won his National Championship! Also, he wants to show people the "his" team can run the ball "down anybody's throat"!
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:49 pm to Double Down
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I really find it amusing that Miles' quarterbacks had no problems at OSU and the first few years he was here... high flying explosive offenses we the norm. What has changed so much?
Bc we dont need a QB to throw the ball 35 times a game for 350 yards to win games. This isnt the Big12. We count on our defense. We run the ball to keep the other team's offense off the field and when our run game (i.e. O-line play) is gelling, our passing game is there.
Sure Mett missed a lot of throws but there was a lot of drops this year and an o-line that couldnt stay consistent in pass protection.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:52 pm to lsutigers14
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Bc we dont need a QB to throw the ball 35 times a game for 350 yards to win games. This isnt the Big12. We count on our defense. We run the ball to keep the other team's offense off the field and when our run game (i.e. O-line play) is gelling, our passing game is ther
Don't have to have a spectacular offense. You do need to be able to turn it on when it's necessary though.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:53 pm to TigerBait2008
No...Miles is not on the field! But it is Mile's responsibility to do whatever is necessary to "develop" a QB. Emphasis has totally been on the running game-go back and look at the stats for the past 4-5 years and check the averages....at best 30% passing, and 70% run, with a whole lot of 20% passing and 80% run.
I would suspect that "if" we were to recruit a high powered OC....that he would decline the offer!
I would suspect that "if" we were to recruit a high powered OC....that he would decline the offer!
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:54 pm to HoustonTigah
Amen!!
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I wouldn't call them a "string of bad QB's." There was decent QB play in between.
I wouldnt call it that either, which is why i said temas across the country seem to go in cycles regardless of the coach.
Saban did let the future #1 overall pick ride the bench behind marcus randall.
Randall and clausen didnt develop under Jimbo and Saban. They were both below average qbs.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:55 pm to That LSU Guy
Can you spell "c-o-a-c-h-i-n-g!
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Don't have to have a spectacular offense. You do need to be able to turn it on when it's necessary though.
I completely agree.
Just imagine if even half those drops didnt happen or maybe if 5 of those deep balls that Mett overthrew were complete.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:03 pm to EarthwormJim
The raw talent is there-Met has it! BUT.....it has to be developed! It has to be developed in practice-repetitions, ect.
Instead...it's the dive play off left tackle!!!!
You know the one i am talking about....the one the other team is waiting on!
Instead...it's the dive play off left tackle!!!!
You know the one i am talking about....the one the other team is waiting on!
Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:14 pm to lsutigers14
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Just imagine if even half those drops didnt happen or maybe if 5 of those deep balls that Mett overthrew were complete.
Passing game is still out of sync. Part of the ongoing issue.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:22 pm to dgnx6
quote:It's just to point out that offensive production was n't coaching. It was lack of a QB who could play the position.
t wouldn't have to be repeated if the fallacies it addresses weren't. Hard to blame a guy for being asked to do more than he is capable.
I really hated the people that constantly bashed jordan. what was he gonna say, no coach im not going to play? What person in their right mind would say that?
Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:25 pm to coolmonk
Les Miles has not proven that he knows how to game plan an offense on a regular basis much less coach up a quarterback.
Dude has never coached up a qb.
One game a year, offense plays almost a complete game. That game this year was Alabama.
Dude has never coached up a qb.
One game a year, offense plays almost a complete game. That game this year was Alabama.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:50 pm to dgnx6
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Randall and clausen didnt develop under Jimbo and Saban. They were both below average qbs.
Randall and Clausen were destined to be backups. And let's not pretend that Russell never got any playing time in 2004. And as for Josh Booty, he played much better under Saban than he ever did under DiNardo. In fact he was first-team all SEC under Saban/Fisher. Was Davey not developed under Saban/Fisher?
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:03 pm to AlxTgr
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Then did not play despite the worst QB in our histroy stinking it up.
Chad Loupe,Jesse Daigle, and Marcus Randle all say hello.
JJ and JL are gone. I don't know how much cfb y'all watch but for years I have seen teams with far less talented offensive players AND qbs than we have had be able to consistently run, pass, and score. So either LSU just has the most overrated offensive ayers in the country or the coaches have no clue how to get the most out of their players.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 10:01 pm to dgnx6
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Bama- broyle and jpw didnt get it doen. Mcelroy and Mccarron did.
Since Saban has been at Bama the Offense has been ok to very good. Usually good.
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UF- Leak and tebow, now they dont have good qb play
Yes and they have a new coach.
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UT- Vince young and mccoy, now they dont have good qb play
Yes and the Texas fans would like to have a new coach.
[quote]LSU- Jmarc, Flynn, RP now they dont have good qb play
Yes and we got a new coach.
Can you see what is the common theme here--hint
coach.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 10:07 pm to dgnx6
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But im not going to sit here and say LSU is the only one that has had qb problems. That shite seems to go in cycles for every team regardless of the coach.
No one else has said that either. For 5 years we have had an offense that is in the bottom half of college football---way in the bottom half.
It shows we do not have a coach currently on the offensive staff that can recruit, coach and call a game day plan. What I would like is for Les to go out and find that person and hire him.
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