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Posted on 1/7/13 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 1/7/13 at 3:33 pm to
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I'm not understanding why you are looking at mutual funds when you can usually find an equivalent ETF which generally has a lower trading cost and lower or comparable expense ratio

Because you have a lot of decay in ETFs, especially depending on the strategy. Look at a chart of VXX versus the VIX and you will see the ultimate form of ETF decay due to option expiry. Also ETFs are much more complicated vehicles than most people really understand, the collateral posting backing ETFs can be made with securities that aren't even within the strategy. For example, there was a treasury ETF in Fall of 2011 that was collateralized with 30% Italian bonds.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/7/13 at 3:37 pm to
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Because you have a lot of decay in ETFs, especially depending on the strategy. Look at a chart of VXX versus the VIX and you will see the ultimate form of ETF decay due to option expiry. Also ETFs are much more complicated vehicles than most people really understand, the collateral posting backing ETFs can be made with securities that aren't even within the strategy. For example, there was a treasury ETF in Fall of 2011 that was collateralized with 30% Italian bonds.



^^^ This. He's looking at mutual funds because he's a passive investor, and passive investors are wise to stick with Index funds or Mutual funds.
Posted by Maniac979
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Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:46 pm to
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