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How long before Sumlin starts getting NFL looks?

Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:09 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
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Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:09 pm
Won't be long IMO.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21577 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:10 pm to
Next Chip Kelly?
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22470 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:11 pm to
Gene Chizik is very sad at the moment

Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5108 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:11 pm to
Honestly, as bad as it is, it may depend on Chip Kelly's success
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66385 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 11:11 pm to
I wonder if any NFL franchises bring him in to fulfill their Rooney Rule need?
This post was edited on 1/4/13 at 11:12 pm
Posted by GeorgiaTide
Georgia
Member since Aug 2012
673 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 12:11 am to
2 or 3 years. It took Kelly almost 4 to start to get looks.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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37538 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 12:48 am to
He's probably got a vm or two right now.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5788 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 7:43 am to
I think he is a great coach but I think a lot of his success comes from Manziel. Unless he waits four years then goes to the NFL and drafts Manziel, I don't see him making it in the pros.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
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Posted on 1/5/13 at 7:50 am to
What about his time in Houston? Or his time at Ok State?
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
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18658 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 7:56 am to
You didn't watch his teams at Houston did you? The man can flat out coach.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 8:56 am to
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Honestly, as bad as it is, it may depend on Chip Kelly's success

agreed. If Kelly does a Spurrier, it's going to be a while. If he tears it up, someone will want a copy cat fairly quickly.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6925 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:17 am to
Shouldn't he win something, of significance, first?

I mean, Kelly took a while, but at least he won major conference football titles, and top tier bowl games.
Posted by theebuckeyenut
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Aug 2010
881 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:24 am to
Dont forget this season...the greatest 2 loss team in the history of CFB...at least according to aggies
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:34 am to
Sumlin isn't even remotely connected to Kelly IMO. Outside of the emphasis on pace, they're not very similar at all when you look at the offensive schemes.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Member since Sep 2003
44529 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:35 am to
OU, not Ok State.

I think he'll start getting some mention as early as next year. Somewhat surprised at the Chip Kelly love. It'll be interesting to see how he plays out.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
70646 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Sumlin isn't even remotely connected to Kelly IMO. Outside of the emphasis on pace, they're not very similar at all when you look at the offensive schemes.


I think what he meant is NFL teams will be reluctant to draw from the college ranks if Kelly doesn't work out in Cleveland. There would be too many failures with that resume (Spurrier, NTP, etc.) and it would create the perception that college coaches don't translate well to the pros.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:52 am to
quote:

I think what he meant is NFL teams will be reluctant to draw from the college ranks if Kelly doesn't work out in Cleveland. There would be too many failures with that resume (Spurrier, NTP, etc.) and it would create the perception that college coaches don't translate well to the pros.


I guess, but college coaches and rookie QBs are succeeding at an alarming rate in the pros right now. I think it goes to show how much the college game has progressed to basically a pseudo-minor league for the NFL.

And again, it's been said on here numerous times, but Spurrier's failure wasn't a condemnation of his system's inability to succeed in the NFL. It was a condemnation that you can't be on the golf course for 10 hours a week and then succeed in the NFL with a shitty roster.

And I hate Spurrier.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
70646 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 11:52 am to
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And again, it's been said on here numerous times, but Spurrier's failure wasn't a condemnation of his system's inability to succeed in the NFL. It was a condemnation that you can't be on the golf course for 10 hours a week and then succeed in the NFL with a shitty roster.


True. But NTP failed with the Dolphins. Butch Davis didn't work out very well in Cleveland. There are plenty of examples, and with enough of them teams will think it's more a matter of recruiting and overwhelming the opposition with superior talent.

Harbaugh in SF is a decent counter-example. Coughlin is another, but he made the jump 20 years ago. but most of the successful NFL coaches were NFL coordinators or NFL retreads.

Super Bowl winners the last 10 years:

Coughlin - Jaguars head coach
McCarthy - Saints coordinator
Payton - Cowboys coordinator
Tomlin - Vikings coordinator
Dungy - Bucs head coach
Cowher - Chiefs coordinator
Bellycheat - Browns head coach
Gruden - Raiders head coach

Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36136 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 11:54 am to
quote:

I think he is a great coach but I think a lot of his success comes from Manziel.
He's won everywhere he's went so far
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 1/5/13 at 12:05 pm to
After next year depending on how the So. Slump effects Johnny Football.
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