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TigerDog83 
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:52 am to Tommy Patel)
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100% fact, I own a descent plot of land in Natchitoches parish and we are dealing with their pressure and spin doctors right now. I'm perfectly happy making a modest living growing trees, Frick fracking.
Unless you are in far NW Natchitoches parish good luck ever seeing any drilling anyways. The La TMS hasn't exactly been making monster wells where Indigo has been playing.
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R2Z2
Member since Dec 2012
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 12:01 pm to Ysebaert)
There are good and bad oil companies.
Lawsuits handle the bad ones.
The Matt Damon film is funded by....
Arab oil!
Go figure.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 12:05 pm to lsu480)
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No matter what the OPs intentions are fracking cannot be good for the environment.
No industry is good for the environment. Even industries supporting the environment damage the environment.
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CptRusty 
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 12:09 pm to Ysebaert)
 
It kills me that suddenly people are getting so riled up about hydraulic fracturing. It has been going on since the 60-70's, if not earlier.
I wonder if 20 years from now people are going to make documentaries about perf guns?
"Dey settin off asplozions under da ground! Dey gonna BLOW UP DA EARTH! Big Oil only wants to make money!  "....*drives away in Cadillac Escalade*
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Ysebaert
Member since Oct 2011
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 12:17 pm to CptRusty)
Just now catching up. 7 pages. sweet. merica. frick yeah!
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mylsuhat 
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Member since Mar 2008
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 12:21 pm to Ysebaert)
Are you open minded to change your opinion about the show you watched? If not then just ignore the 7 pages
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Ysebaert
Member since Oct 2011
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 12:37 pm to mylsuhat)
I don't know. Maybe. Although when I was watching the show last night my eyes glazed over and I started nodding my head. At this point I'm inclined to file the whole fracking thing in the idgaf folder. I'm really just thinking hard about where to go for lunch right truth be known.
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TrueTiger
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 12:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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No industry is good for the environment. Even industries supporting the environment damage the environment.
This. Human activity will impact the environment even if we went back to log cabins, wood fired heating and horses.
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saltybulldog 
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Member since Aug 2007
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:04 pm to Revelator)
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Yes. I love the way he watches one HBO special and is now an expert on fracking. Next week he'll watch Oliver Stones JFK and be on here telling us all about the intricacies of the assassination!
Just curios. Where did he claim to be an expert? It seems to me that he just put out his thoughts on why he saw and wanted to discuss it. Even later on in the thread he further explains that he doesn't fully buy the hype. Some of you people are just dying to pop off about the subject.
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Wishnitwas1998 
Tennessee Fan
Walls, Ms
Member since Oct 2010
7056 posts
| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:07 pm to Ysebaert)
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They just want to make money
Doesn't everyone want to make money?
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mmcgrath
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New Jersey
Member since Feb 2010
2161 posts
| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:19 pm to supatigah)
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Disclaimer: I work for the largest oil and gas service company in the world
Couple of points
When the Marcellus first began the Pennsylvania DEQ was poorly equipped to regulate it. That is no longer the case.
The biggest environmental hazard is on the surface where local yokels and Mexicans are routinely rushed through the CDL process and then put on the roads. Traffic accidents caused by vacuum trucks unsafely driven on county roads is an epidemic in every shale play. That is a state regulatory problem.
They were flowing back the frac fluids and discharging back into water ways in the early days in Pennsylvania but that has been shut down.
The heavy trucks tear up county roads and cause unsafe driving conditions for civilians.
The work sites used to be routinely torn up but a cottage industry of lawyers that protect the land owners is booming. Land owners are much more savvy about vocalizing the misuse of their land and access.
As far as water tables being contaminated that has been debunked. Lighting the well water from the tap on gasland is a natural phenomenon from organic matter in the aquifer degrading and creating methane gas. That is an issue as old as water wells themselves. Has nothing to do with fracking
Most E&Ps now have facilities that recover, process and reuse the water so discharge issues have been addressed. Water is now a reusable resource that is very profitable for the service companies.
The chemicals they use are primarily polymers to aid in pumping the water but they degrade when the water is returned to the surface. The most hazardous chemicals are biocides used to defoul the water before they pump it to prevent souring the formation. The biocides degrade and deplete as well when they flow back the well.
If you want to be concerned about something be concerned about:
Disposal wells that pump all kinds of nasty stuff into the deep formations are woefully under regulated and always have been
and "disposable" pipelines that are built with 7-10 yr life expectancies are a huge concern. Those pipelines are routinely carrying millions of cubic feet of gas per day under 600-900 psi and are poorly maintained in some cases. Pipelines built in the 60s, 70s and 80s were built for long life, these new pipelines are thrown together and the transmission companies fight the E&PS constantly on their operating practices. Pipelines in the shales are built knowing the shale has a relatively short production life so they scrimp on the materials and QC. Water and sand/solids build up dramatically accelerates corrosion and these pipelines will fail eventually.
Thanks for the report. I know that you may be in favor of fracking, but your post shows just how needed regulation is and that fracking and related industries still need improvements today.
Bottom Line: Federal and state regulators are woefully underfunded.
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carbola 
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:24 pm to TH03)
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You have EXPERTS with PhDs telling you it's IMPOSSIBLE to pollute groundwater by fracking, yet they ignore them and interview a bunch of tards with 4 teeth between them who have their water lines hooked up to gasoline tanks lighting their sinks on fire.
While I agree with the views overall in the is thread, why do we go against this thought process for global warming/climate change?
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RogerTheShrubber
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Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:26 pm to mmcgrath)
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Bottom Line: Federal and state regulators are woefully underfunded.
To libs, they will always be underfunded.
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carbola
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:26 pm to supatigah)
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Disclaimer: I work for the largest oil and gas service company in the world
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supatigah
You're a smurf too?
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carbola
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:31 pm to lsu480)
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No matter what the OPs intentions are fracking cannot be good for the environment.
Please go on.
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The Cow Goes Moo Moo 
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Member since Nov 2012
625 posts
| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:35 pm to CptRusty)
My father is a liberal who also is a frac engineer. It's been rather entertaining watching him squirm over this issue the past few months.
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tojoe
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| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 2:41 pm to Ysebaert)
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Rawdawgs 
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Member since Dec 2007
166 posts
| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 4:36 pm to tojoe)
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100% fact, I own a descent plot of land in Natchitoches parish and we are dealing with their pressure and spin doctors right now. I'm perfectly happy making a modest living growing trees, Frick fracking.
You get paid for growing trees or cutting them down? Cause the same douchebags that want to stop fracking may want to have some input on that activity.
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LSURoss
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Shreveport, LA
Member since Dec 2007
8631 posts
| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 4:53 pm to Ysebaert)
As long as I get my "mailbox money" I don't really care..
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real
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Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
11495 posts
| re: Just watched the HBO special on fracking.... (Posted on 12/27/12 at 5:45 pm to Ysebaert)
I take it that the film you just watched was by some EPA group? What do you know about fracking? All I know is what's been done on my familiy's land.and fire hasn't came out the faucet,the earth hasn't exploded. Our crops grew great this year. Our animals haven't died. So tell me what I need to expect. It's been 5 yrs since they started.
This post was edited on 12/27 at 5:48 pm
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