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re: England and WC 2014
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:04 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:04 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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I don't root for England in any way nor do I give two fricks about how they do in tournaments.
Well that's all pretty much bullshite.
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Once again, your premise discussed "optimism" which is something England fans should have plenty of.
Dude, every nation that is worth a frick has promising young talent. Y'all just named a bunch of names that are good in the same sense that I could name a bunch of HS football recruits and claim they are good. None of those guys are elite on the world stage yet. The fact that you put in guys like Andy Carroll, Defoe (past prime), Welbeck, Sturridge, Ox, Cleverley, etc. as implicitly key members of their attack is just crazy. There's no way a team on the level of the Top 5 or so even thinks about playing those guys in the WC.
It may be somewhat of a cop out or sound arrogant, but I really don't have the time or dedication to scope out all the best and brightest each national side has to work with in the future. And even though you do, you haven't put forth much of an argument that would make me think otherwise. Since I know I'm not as informed as others, I actually would have listened to good rebuttal, which was a main reason for the thread being created. Not to waste everyone's time by talking about France or claim I don't follow Arsenal enough because I don't think Walcott is very good outside of his limited role and capabilities.
The context of this thread is shaped by the notion that England should consistently be competing for titles in the WC or in the Euros. And they aren't. I don't care what the Liverpool fans on Reddit say or whatever.
This post was edited on 12/21/12 at 4:06 pm
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Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:08 pm to acgeaux129
I will say that Welbeck, for a 22 year old, has done well internationally. Five goals in a dozen appearances.
They won't be contenders this WC, but I think Beast is saying that most of the people on that list are young and are highly touted. It's going to be a transition year for the team, but they have young talent that could possibly make England a contender in 2016 and 2018 and beyond.
They won't be contenders this WC, but I think Beast is saying that most of the people on that list are young and are highly touted. It's going to be a transition year for the team, but they have young talent that could possibly make England a contender in 2016 and 2018 and beyond.
Posted on 12/21/12 at 4:25 pm to acgeaux129
I don't know what kind of magical answer you are looking for. This thread is full of information answering your question. We have detailed why English teams haven't succeeded in the past, how the current generation is different, how the current generation can be better, the effect certain players can have on the squad AND have given you a list of 35+ players who can play a role in the near future. What else are you looking for?
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