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RuLSU 
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| re: When will the Raiders and Browns be good again? (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:34 pm to TreyAnastasio)
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Yep. Watched every game this season. Team is better than the 4-8 record.
Allow the man with the Rutgers logo to congratulate you, the man with the 'Bama logo, on the Browns win over the Raiders on Sunday... on the largest LSU forum on the internet.
That game was oddly fascinating on Sunday.
And, as a Raider fan - I assure you, Oakland is every bit as bad, if not worse, then their 3-9 record.
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Fox Mulder 
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| re: When will the Raiders and Browns be good again? (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:35 pm to RuLSU)
What coach wants to deal with this shit
All the "different from his father" talk is BS. In fact he might be worse. Al, in his day, knew about football, coached football, etc...
WTF qualifies this guy to be this heavily involved with his team?
Raiders are fricked unless this guy steps back.
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TreyAnastasio 
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| re: When will the Raiders and Browns be good again? (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:37 pm to RuLSU)
Had Haden not been suspended there is a good chance we would be 6-6.
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RuLSU
Rutgers Fan
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| re: When will the Raiders and Browns be good again? (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:42 pm to Fox Mulder)
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All the "different from his father" talk is BS. In fact he might be worse. Al, in his day, knew about football, coached football, etc...
WTF qualifies this guy to be this heavily involved with his team?
Any idea what happened to the Raider defense in the month of November?
Hint : It wasn't awesome.
Davis has every right to question his coach after what that team did last month. They were Art Shell in '06 bad for four straight games.
When Mark Davis acts on his impulses, I might change my opinions - until then, I wouldn't read too much into this 'story.'
(BTW - He's worked for the Raider organization since he was in his twenties, albeit quietly. He's as qualified as the Rooney / Mara children.)
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Fox Mulder
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| re: When will the Raiders and Browns be good again? (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:48 pm to RuLSU)
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Davis has every right to question his coach after what that team did last month.
Of course he does, but it's probably not good to publicly question your first year head coach when you're trying to improve the organization's image. Rooney/Mara let their GM and coach do their job, Davis had been much more hands on. I won't be surprised if mckenzie doesn't make it past next year.
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RuLSU
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| re: When will the Raiders and Browns be good again? (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:55 pm to Fox Mulder)
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Of course he does, but it's probably not good to publicly question your first year head coach when you're trying to improve the organization's image. Rooney/Mara let their GM and coach do their job, Davis had been much more hands on. I won't be surprised if mckenzie doesn't make it past next year.
Davis is in a tough spot.
The fans were going nuts, especially the unfortunate souls who actually live in Oakland.
Hue Jackson had "this" team at 8-8 -- not really, since the roster is depleted of the depth and 5 starters, due to cap constraints, but most fans don't care.
Thus, Davis has to say something to make sure people keep paying for tickets.
He was quiet until there were 20,000 unsold tickets. Then he made some noise.
Again, don't put much into this 'story.' McKenzie isn't going anywhere for a while.
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bomber77 
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Mississippi by way of Cleveland, OH
Member since Aug 2008
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| re: When will the Raiders and Browns be good again? (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:02 pm to TreyAnastasio)
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Yep. Watched every game this season. Team is better than the 4-8 record.
Shurmur needs to go. He's the NFL's worst coach.
The talent level is solid, much better than the Raiders.
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TreyAnastasio
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| re: When will the Raiders and Browns be good again? (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:03 pm to bomber77)
Im starting to think Shermur isnt that bad. We will see how they do the next month.
He's gone though. Haslam is cleaning house.
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bomber77
Ohio State Fan
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| re: When will the Raiders and Browns be good again? (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:03 pm to DriveByBBQ)
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Seems like the Browns need to improve their O-Line...I don't know much about the Browns that's just my opinion
Actually our Oline is top third in the league easily.
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bomber77
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| re: When will the Raiders and Browns be good again? (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:05 pm to TreyAnastasio)
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Im starting to think Shermur isnt that bad.
I hate his arrogant attitude. The guy is a loser, this is his last head coaching job ever. What makes it worse is he is also a terrible play caller. He's cost us at least 3 games this year trying to sit on 3 or 6 point leads with an entire half to go.
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TreyAnastasio
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| re: When will the Raiders and Browns be good again? (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:08 pm to bomber77)
But we have won 4 of 7 with a legit chance to finish the season 2-2.
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this is his last head coaching job ever
No chance. This is the NFL we are talking about.
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