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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 4:41 pm to BleedPurpleGold)
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most on this board still consider the Bundesliga a second-rate league.
I never got this impression. I thought most, if not all of us, saw the Germans on par with the English.
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LSUSOBEAST1
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 4:54 pm to Harry Caray)
Yea most on the board pull for the German clubs even when playing the English ones. I know I do.
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cwil177
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 4:55 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
Hendo, you're a little sensitive about the German thing 
At this point it's dumb to argue with its success.
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 5:00 pm to WarSlamEagle)
Its not below the EPL or La Liga this year at all.
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:26 pm to hendersonshands)
i didnt read this thread but fricking bayern vs. BVB in champions league final #boner
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BleedPurpleGold
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:32 pm to rockchlkjayhku11)
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bayern vs. BVB in champions league final #boner
My penis would explode.
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:37 pm to rockchlkjayhku11)
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i didnt read this thread but fricking bayern vs. BVB in champions league final #boner
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:49 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
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fall of La Liga happening as we speak
Don't buy that, unless you are talking about their economy.
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LSUSOBEAST1
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:47 pm to TN Bhoy)
Why is that?
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:58 pm to hendersonshands)
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even though most on this board still consider the Bundesliga a second-rate league.
Who?
I think most posters think that there is more quality in the English mid-table or something like that. That is probably due to being more familiar with the league.
There are too many arbitrary ways to rate leagues. You can make pretty reasonable cases for any of the three top leagues, and you will probably end simply arguing for the one you know the most about.
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TN Bhoy
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:01 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
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Why is that?
Atleti, Betis, and Malaga are becoming much better than the cannon fodder of years past. The rise of the Athletics, the Vigos and the Sociedads are bringing more meaning to the season than just the Clasicos.
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thenry712 
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:31 pm to TN Bhoy)
I think he's referring to the financial situation of the league. The Athletics, Atleticos etc. will have to gain enough pull to force a renegotiation of the La Liga TV deals. Right now those clubs can't afford to keep their players because of mounting debt. If the TV deals still remain favorable to Barça and Real, the taxman might finally come down on teams without enough assets.
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LSUSOBEAST1
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:50 pm to thenry712)
Yep. How much longer until Isco, Castro, Leon, Turan, Aspas, Falcao and others are scooped up by bigger clubs? Their current clubs can't afford to keep them once the bids start coming in.
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:05 pm to thenry712)
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I think he's referring to the financial situation of the league
I agree about that, but I think that the Catalan secession movement will bring on new talks with Barca wanting to be able to stay in La Liga if secession happens.
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:56 pm to hendersonshands)
Juventus one of the most impressive? ehhh...lately maybe but definitely not overall.
but yeah Dortmund has been pretty impressive
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:14 pm to TN Bhoy)
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I agree about that, but I think that the Catalan secession movement will bring on new talks with Barca wanting to be able to stay in La Liga if secession happens.
Isn't the talk that Barça (and Espanyol) would play in Ligue 1 if the secession went down?
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:15 pm to castorinho)
I think Juve will go a long way in this tournament. I love their midfield so much and they're solid on defense. Teams will have to completely dominate the ball in order to beat them over 2 legs, IMO
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LSUSOBEAST1
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| re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:18 am to TN Bhoy)
Just read that 16 Spanish teams in the 1st division are in debt to the Spanish government.
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