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Chaz95 
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:00 pm to stapuffmarshy)
He should not be drafted as a cornerback, but he may be signed as a special teams player.
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DriveByBBQ 
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:08 pm to DeltaDoc)
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He could be the equivalent of Ed Reed if he really applies himself.
I am not saying he will become that, but he could become that.
Greg McElroy 'could be' the next Tom Brady...
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TheCaterpillar 
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:41 pm to DriveByBBQ)
How big is Cortland Finnegan?
I could see that comparison.
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molsusports
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:43 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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and i don't think he runs a sub 4.4 now, let alone with 20 more lbs on his frame
wasn't he running around a 4.6 out of high school?
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Scoob
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:08 pm to molsusports)
question- did Ron Brooks stick in the NFL after coming out last year? I don't think there's a lot of physical difference between the 2, and Mathieu has way more knack for the ball.
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MrWiseGuy
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:23 pm to Scoob)
Brooks runs like a 4.3. Mathieu is a mid 4.5 guy. And shorter.
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JBeam
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:26 pm to Chaz95)
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He should not be drafted as a cornerback, but he may be signed as a special teams player.
Someones going to draft this dude.
Not in the first three rounds. But it wouldn't surprise me if he was taken in the mid 4th round.
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TheCaterpillar
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:34 pm to Scoob)
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question- did Ron Brooks stick in the NFL after coming out last year? I don't think there's a lot of physical difference between the 2, and Mathieu has way more knack for the ball.
Ron Brooks was the fastest player on the team last year. 4.3 guy.
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And Ron Brooks was jacked. Strong and fast man right there. And he is doing very well in the pros for a rookie with not much expected of him.
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HMTVBrian2 
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:40 pm to TheCaterpillar)
I don't think he'll be drafted but someone will take a shot on him because he's a fantastic football player in a lot of different facets. Not so much a cover guy but I think you put him as a rover and let him roam around and use his great instincts, like the Steelers do with Polamalu or the Ravens do with Ed Reed. Obviously it'd take a lot for him to ever play to that level but I'm talking about similar usage of the player.
His big problem at the next level will be his size. He's very small. But he'll stick on special teams if nothing else. I think there's not really a defined position for a guy like him.
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molsusports
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:41 pm to HMTVBrian2)
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I think there's not really a defined position for a guy like him.
dunno
nickel and special teams seem like the obvious answers
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NOTORlOUSD 
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:51 pm to molsusports)
I don't know about speed, but he's the same size as Antoine Winfield. Can't you see him making plays like these? He's the best blitzing corner I've ever seen in college football, so I'm sure a few aggressive DCs are looking at him.
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Vicks Kennel Club
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:25 pm to NOTORlOUSD)
I hope the Vikings would gamble a third round pick on him. I think he goes somewhere in that round or maybe the fourth.
I like him for his abilities as a punt returner and his penchant for big plays. Him and Harrison Smith could make some exciting plays and create turnovers.
He would probably also get to start in Minnesota. Outside of Winfield, the Vikings do not have a second corner since god know when.
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Poodlebrain
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:00 pm to blueslover)
The one thing I took away from that evaluation was that Mathieu makes plays despite poor technique. The only way that is possible is if he has some type of extraordinary skills that overcome the poor technique. Those skils are what will get Mathieu drafted by some team. He can improve on his techniques with coaching and a willingness to work.
I think part of his problem is the way he was used at LSU. His ability to disrupt plays was given so unique that he was used more for his ability to disrupt plays than his play in traditional pass coverage. So I don't think learnig fundamentals and proper techniques were as high a priority for the LSU coaching staff as they could have been. In the NFL Mathieu will have to learn that covering a receiver so that the QB looks elsewhere valued higher than loose coverage with the occasional interception.
I think he will go into NFL training camp with a chip on his shoulder and prove to be a late round steal in the draft.
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Dark Tiger
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:09 pm to blueslover)
Honey badger never turned down a bowl - damn, wrong thread! 
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Lester Earl 
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:10 pm to Dark Tiger)
Every team in the nfl has a cb his size just about.... I don't think it's that rare to be a 5''9" cb
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dukke v
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:14 pm to H-Town Tiger)
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I agree as long as his work outs are good.
NFL wr's will eat him alive. He has some tools to be at least a decent playr. But A Dieon he is NOT.
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Scoob
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:23 pm to Poodlebrain)
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The one thing I took away from that evaluation was that Mathieu makes plays despite poor technique. The only way that is possible is if he has some type of extraordinary skills that overcome the poor technique.
He has phenomenal handspeed and hand-eye coordination. By that, I mean Sugar Ray Leonard/Roy Jones levels. Watch him strip the ball on some of his plays.
He'd have made a great boxer a generation ago. We saw him cause a ton of fumbles in college. how that translates to the NFL remains to be seen.
Re the Brooks comparison- I thought they were closer in physical appearance. They did sorta look the same on the field. My bad on the speed differential
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RLDSC FAN 
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| re: Honeybadger as a draft pick (Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:33 pm to Lester Earl)
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I don't think it's that rare to be a 5''9" cb
is he really 5'9 thou? If he is then yeah I agree there's plenty of players that size. I love his playmaking ability but he will have trouble covering NFL WR's. His coverage skills aren't very good but I do think he gets drafted somewhere in the 5th or 6th round.
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