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re: Is Brees still an elite QB?

Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:37 am to
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:37 am to
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No response to that from the Brees haters, eh?


I really didn't want to get into a back and forth on this board (and I'm not a "Brees hater"), but if you're going to taunt people after your ridiculous posts then let's do this.

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Statistically speaking, no one in NFL history has ever:
been more accurate in season,
had more yards in a season,
had more 5000yrd passing seasons,
had more completions in a season,
had more consecutive 400+completion seasons,
had more consecutive seasons with over 4000yrds and over 30 tds,
had more games with over 5 passind tds,


These are really impressive achievements an why Brees is an elite player and a HOF lock. None of those records make him the GOAT, and at no point in his career has he "out performed every QB in history".

His greatest season was last year, and he didn't even outperform every QB that specific season. Rodgers was better. I know that you're going to come back with the completion percentage and yards, but the yards are irrelevant as they were compiled due to Brees throwing so much more than Rodgers. Rodgers had a much higher YPA, TD to attempt ration, INT to attempt ratio, etc.

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Im not saying Brady and Manning arent great, but to laugh at the thought of Drew being at least equal to them is asinine in my opinion.


I didn't do that. I called out your statement that Brees has "out performed every QB in history".

Let's take a look at Brees with the Saints vs Manning's best 5 year stretch and Brady's:

Brees' QB rating last 5 seasons with the Saints:
110.6
90.9
109.6
96.2
89.4

Manning's QB rating 03-07:
99
121.1
104.1
101
98

Brady's Qb rating 07-11:
117.2
83.9
96.2
111
105.6

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He is or was in the top all time in almost every single category.




That simply isn't true. Here's a link to passing records. Brees is on there a good bit, but he is most definitely not the leader in "almost every single category":

LINK

Now let me clarify my position one last time because you seem to get overzealous and misinterpret things. Drew Brees is an elite quarterback and has played at an historically great level in his time with the Saints. He's played himself into the discussion with Manning and Brady. He has not however, "out performed every QB in history" and does not own "almost every single record". Those statements are the statements of an overzealous fanboy
Posted by Tiger Khan
Member since Oct 2009
2363 posts
Posted on 12/2/12 at 1:23 pm to
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He has not however, "out performed every QB in history" and does not own "almost every single record". Those statements are the statements of an overzealous fanboy


So that entire post was to "prove" that Breesus is exaggerating the status of a future HOF, Superbowl MVP, holder of multiple, prestigious records, local Hero, role model, leader, winning NFL QB? The guy that was more accurate than an Olympic archer?

Seriously, not sure what is more pathetic? You calling him an overzealous fan for openly appreciating and defending the best QB in Saints history and one of the best in NFL history or that entire post to "prove" Drew Brees' greatness is being exaggerated!


And that's for the rest of the idiots on this thread that continue to criticize a coachless QB. (Take Phil Jackson from the Lakers and look what happens)..

Brees has more than earned devoted love and loyalty from this Fan Base.

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