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So both went with an interim, but your problem is with who Arkansas chose as their interim. This sounds like your problem.

Yeah....it's my problem. Not arky's.






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ocelot4ark
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Top tier teams can hire better coaches than John L. fricking Smith, anytime of the year. Anytime.


Then link me ONE frickING INSTANCE when a top coach has left his current school after March. Just one. Moron.



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DaleDenton
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I'm curoius to know who you expected UA to hire in April? Bring up an Asst Coach that was already on staff? Go after a head coach at another program without even conducting an interview/research process? Go after an old coach that was unemployed? (i.e. Phil Fulmer) I don't even think Fulmer would have taken a 10 month gig at Arky, I think he'd have wanted the permanent job.



Fulmer wanted a 5 year deal and to be able to bring in his own staff.

Butch wasn't clear of the NCAA and the UNC deal.

No other current HC was going to leave at that time, some had expressed interest but the "timing wasn't right".

We were in the middle of spring practice.

The assistants showed they were barely capable of doing their jobs this season, let alone handling HC duties as well.

But yeah, we are a shitty program because we couldn't make the home run hire at that time and apparently Ohio State is on the same level since they faced similar circumstances and went the same route one year prior.






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Bring up an Asst Coach that was already on staff?

Well, that's one option.
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Go after a head coach at another program without even conducting an interview/research process?

Meh, why not go ahead and interview and research? You can do that even in April.
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Go after an old coach that was unemployed? (i.e. Phil Fulmer)

Better option that what was chosen.

I thought Arky had this fantastic program? Unlimited amounts of money? Major player? Usually, those programs don't struggle making an offer to any coach, at any time, and convincing them to leave their current gig for something better. Isn't that pretty much how y'all hired Petrino? He quit his NFL team in the middle of the season? Why? I guess he felt Arky was a better gig, right? That couldn't happen again? Why is that?

Boy, you Arky fans will convince yourself literally of anything to justify why your school hired John L. fricking Smith. Maybe one day, you will look back, and with emotions removed, see what others are trying to tell you.






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Then link me ONE frickING INSTANCE when a top coach has left his current school after March. Just one. Moron.



Do you seriously believe that no head coach has ever accepted a job in April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, or December?







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ElDawgHawg
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I think most realistic Hog fans could see the writing on the wall when they brought in JLS. I will be honest, I thought that even he couldn't mess up the talent we had.... but he did. Wasn't all his fault: If you take a good look at the injury list from the season it's flat out mind blowing.





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piggilicious
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Boy, you Arky fans will convince yourself literally of anything to justify why your school hired John L. fricking Smith. Maybe one day, you will look back, and with emotions removed, see what others are trying to tell you.


jls is gone, we're moving on- perhaps you should take notes on how to do the same. or gfy, either or...






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DaleDenton
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Do you seriously believe that no head coach has ever accepted a job in April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, or December?



Well, give us an example of a coach leaving one school to go coach at another in March.

Just one.

I know of one name, he has already been mentioned, so you provide another.

I hope LSU never has to try and replace a coach during the middle of spring practice, I really do, but good luck to you guys if that happens.






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jls is gone, we're moving on- perhaps you should take notes on how to do the same. or gfy, either or...


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Reasons Arkansas will end up making the best HC hire.


Just commenting on the OP. Boy, you Arky's are WAAAAYYYY sensitive about what happened. This is going to be a fun year.

good luck with John Gruden.






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sugatowng
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Boy, you Arky fans will convince yourself literally of anything to justify why your school hired John L. fricking Smith.


I guess to bring in a high profile name in December and sign him to long term deal...I dont' know what is hard about this subject.

Its not like Arky's are the only ones saying that bringing in Smith was the best thing for the short term...






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ocelot4ark
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Meh, why not go ahead and interview and research? You can do that even in April.


Who says we didn't. The point is that no top-notch coach was willing to abandon his current school.

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Usually, those programs don't struggle making an offer to any coach, at any time, and convincing them to leave their current gig for something better. Isn't that pretty much how y'all hired Petrino?


And he was fricking CRUCIFIED for it. No coach worth a shite was going to leave his current employer high and dry in APRIL, leaving THEM to have to scramble to put together a staff. If you think otherwise, you're a moron (already established). But when you consider how common knowledge it has become that Petrino was ROASTED for leaving before finishing his commitment, you honestly think good coaches were chomping at the bit to go through that? Really?

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Better option that what was chosen.


Hiring Phil Fulmer for 5 years would have been better than sacrificing 1 season, and ultimately hiring someone BETTER than Phil Fulmer? Because that's what's going to happen.

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Boy, you Arky fans will convince yourself literally of anything to justify why your school hired John L. fricking Smith.


We don't have to justify anything, retard. It's fricking reality. Name me ONE instance of a top coach leaving his school after March. One time. JLS sucks. You don't have to convince us of that. But the choice wasn't: JLS, Patterson, Petersen, Gruden, Miles, etc. The choice was: JLS, Tim Horton (rb coach), or some unknown coach from a FCS school equivalent.

It's better to be coach poor for 7 or 8 months. NOT THAT WE HAD ANY OTHER OPTION. Because, well, you know - COACHES DON'T LEAVE THEIR JOBS IN APRIL.






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piggilicious
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are you still angry that the hog fans didn't believe and didn't want lester? surely does sound like it.







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Festus
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Who says we didn't. The point is that no top-notch coach was willing to abandon his current school.

For Arkansas.

That's my entire point.






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DaleDenton
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For Arkansas.

That's my entire point.


Then provide an example where this has happened for any school.

That's our entire point.


Actually we got JLS to leave one school to come here, so your point is moot.






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I hope LSU never has to try and replace a coach during the middle of spring practice, I really do, but good luck to you guys if that happens.


I hope not either, Dale. I honestly do. And trust me, I believe Petrino fricked you guys over worse than he did Auburn and the Falcons. He completely shite on your program. He is the worst POS coach out there. People told you guys that for a while, but the love affair was there like TN and Kiff, because he was winning.

But trust me. LSU will never, ever, ever hire John L. fricking Smith as it's head coach. Ever. I will guaranty you that.

And Arky did hire him. That's all I'm saying.






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piggilicious
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But trust me. LSU will never, ever, ever hire John L. fricking Smith as it's head coach


ya pretty much have his twin now






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ocelot4ark
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For Arkansas.

That's my entire point.


And you're making that out to be an insult. Which is why I'm asking you to name me ONE frickING INSTANCE where ANY OTHER COACH has quit his job in MOTHERfrickING APRIL to take a job at another school. Just name one. Coaching changes in April. They're so fricking common, right? Should be really easy to find all the ammunition in the WORLD to make Arkansas look bad, right, genius? Get on it. Post it up.

NO TOP NOTCH COACH HAS EVER LEFT HIS JOB IN APRIL TO TAKE ANOTHER JOB IN APRIL.

You saying the fact that Arkansas couldn't make it happen is an indictment of our worth as a program is akin to me arguing that the United States is a complete failure as a country because we don't have a base on the moon.






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Festus
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You guys seem mad.





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ocelot4ark
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But trust me. LSU will never, ever, ever hire John L. fricking Smith as it's head coach. Ever. I will guaranty you that.

And Arky did hire him. That's all I'm saying.



Actually, that's NOT all you're saying. You're saying that we shouldn't have hired a crappy interim because we could have just stolen away a top-notch coach if we were REALLY a great school like we "claim" to be.






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DaleDenton
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Again, there was no one competent enough on staff to be made interim, another area Petrino fricked us with his staff hiring, had he hired someone like Shannon to be his DC, then JLS would have never been hired to be interim, that route would not have been needed.





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