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Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:33 pm to blueboy
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He played for shitty teams, as did Todd Kinchen. Neither was going to put up huge numbers, but both were electrifying players. Do you disagree with that.
I think your argument is turning in on itself -- probably again, as I haven't read all your posts here.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:35 pm to dagrippa
quote:We'll see, but I'm sure if he gets too "flashy," he'll be yanked.
Jeremy Hill
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:37 pm to saintsfan22
quote:I disagree. Some of the most exciting plays in school history came via those two, and in the darkest of times.
Definitely electrifying, but superstar? Not even close.
Not everything is determined by simple quantification.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:42 pm to blueboy
I notice you didnt respond, but I truly hope you enjoyed my little trip down memory lane through the Saban years.
Tell me, at what point did LSU become some unbeatable Juggernaut where winning 10.5 games a year is some sort of embarrassing disappointment.
And as for disappointing offense, which seems to be the real problem people have with Miles, 2002 and 2004 were two of the most gutwrenchingly awful offenses we've ever had.
And 2002 had a terrible D to go with it.
Get over your Saban cock envy you fricking pussy.
Tell me, at what point did LSU become some unbeatable Juggernaut where winning 10.5 games a year is some sort of embarrassing disappointment.
And as for disappointing offense, which seems to be the real problem people have with Miles, 2002 and 2004 were two of the most gutwrenchingly awful offenses we've ever had.
And 2002 had a terrible D to go with it.
Get over your Saban cock envy you fricking pussy.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:43 pm to blueboy
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Not everything is determined by simple quantification.
Superstars put up numbers AND are electrifying to watch. If Kennison and Kinchen were superstars so was Tridon Holiday by your definition.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:52 pm to ZereauxSum
It is perplexing at times how players that do well early in games seem to disappear from the field as the game goes on.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 1:55 pm to ZereauxSum
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Superstars put up numbers AND are electrifying to watch. If Kennison and Kinchen were superstars so was Tridon Holiday by your definition.
As were Stevan Ridley, Charles Scott, Reuben Randle, and Brandon Lafell.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:07 pm to blueboy
Stevan Ridley was a 1000+ yard rusher consecutive years in the SEC. HE doesn't get enough credit for that.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 2:21 pm to TexasTiger1185
Ridley didn't do it back to back.
He was great in 2010 but saw very limited action in 2009.
Scott was our feature back in 09 until getting hurt against Bama
Keiland took over after that until he got hurt too.
Ridley only had like 200 yards all year
He was great in 2010 but saw very limited action in 2009.
Scott was our feature back in 09 until getting hurt against Bama
Keiland took over after that until he got hurt too.
Ridley only had like 200 yards all year
This post was edited on 11/29/12 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 11/29/12 at 3:18 pm to blueboy
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No. I remember sitting in the stands watching us lose to Arkansas, believing that by all logic, we were done. Flukes of mathematics =/= brilliant coaching.
Then I guess you forgot beating Tennessee with the backup QB and then rolling over Ohio State to win the title. Shame, that was the best part!
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Um, yeah. I will remember it differently. And what was under the surface of that BCSCG is the reason for my very rightful despair.
That's great and all, but by any serious metric the 2011 LSU football season was the greatest season in program history. Knocked off top-five Oregon, Arkansas and Alabama, beat top-25 West Virginia, first season we've ever played that involved beating Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Ole Miss and Arkansas in the same year. Had that team closed the deal it would have run through one of the toughest gauntlets in college football history. I know it's easy to get lost in the offensive ineptitude along the way and miss that perspective; I definitely agree that LSU, for all its accomplishments over the Miles era, has underachieved compared to its potential. But that doesn't change the reality of what I said, either.
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That was my favorite part of your post. Yeah, that's what they were. "Rebuilding years." Gotcha.
How weren't they? 2009 maybe not, but 2008, after having to dismiss a star QB and start a bunch of freshmen that had no time to develop, not to mention starting (again, in 08, not so much 09) a lot of newer guys on defense?
Anyway, I noticed you (again) didn't answer about Russell, so I'm going to count him, consider your question answered, and leave it there. If you want a flashy offense then yeah, I'll grant you, Miles's teams are not the teams to be watching (at least not right now; might get a real OC in the near future, I dunno). But (a) there has been at least one "superstar" on the team, and (b) Miles has done a top-5 job in college football and thus deserves a top-5 salary, which he got in this extension + raise.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 3:24 pm to loyalauron
Michael Clayton or Josh Reed
Posted on 11/29/12 at 3:26 pm to dgnx6
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Yet he hasnt won the sec since 09.
the hate for saban just kills credibility
Posted on 11/29/12 at 7:17 pm to Tiger Voodoo
quote:Yeahg, you had a couple of glaring omissions there, including the 2005 UT loss that even inspired a Snoop Dog song about how stupid Miles was.
I notice you didnt respond, but I truly hope you enjoyed my little trip down memory lane through the Saban years.
quote:They were better than the shite we have to put up with now, and those really were "rebuilding years."
And as for disappointing offense, which seems to be the real problem people have with Miles, 2002 and 2004 were two of the most gutwrenchingly awful offenses we've ever had.
quote:Get Les' dick out of your arse.
Get over your Saban cock envy you fricking pussy.
And of course, again, Saban gave LSU its first championship in 45 years and is going for 3/4 this year at Bama. The "Saban's record at LSU" argument kinda falls apart when you consider that, don't it?
Posted on 11/29/12 at 7:21 pm to lsutothetop
quote:Great games, but that 2-loss scenario will never happen again. It was a complete fluke and you have to admit that.
Then I guess you forgot beating Tennessee with the backup QB and then rolling over Ohio State to win the title. Shame, that was the best part!
quote:Except the metric that deals with getting arse-raped because your predictable, Big 10 offense can't do shite.
That's great and all, but by any serious metric the 2011 LSU football season was the greatest season in program history
Sorry, but that nullifies the entire season.
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