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Posted on 11/28/12 at 10:41 am
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/28/12 at 10:41 am
Just a little spin from some of the established mockers without links-

17. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
Without the hyper-aggressive blitzing favored by former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, the Saints may have to develop greater individual defensive linemen. Since earning New Orleans' first round selection in 2008, Sedrick Ellis has been solid in the middle. Free agent Brodrick Bunkley has also played reasonably well this season. Neither is a star, however, and the Saints are getting gashed against the run this year.

13 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: KAWANN SHORT, DT, PURDUE
Whether or not the Saints will wind up selecting in the top half of the draft when all is said and done remains to be seen but their disappointing start to the season certainly exposed some major flaws. Of particular concern is the defense, which ranks near the bottom of the league against both the run and pass. Needless to say New Orleans has a bunch of holes to plug on that side of the ball and it may just come down to selecting the best defender available. Kawann Short of Purdue is a massive presence in the middle who is capable of being a dominant force but he also has a tendency to disappear for stretches too. The big question is whether teams are willing to overlook those bouts of inconsistency or if they will eventually push Short out of the first round. The Saints could also stand to upgrade at cornerback and despite the presence of some big names there are still issues at linebacker too. It is awfully difficult to imagine New Orleans going offense with this choice but if they did it would probably be for an offensive tackle or perhaps a wide receiver. This has to be defense though, right?

13. NO: Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M*
New Orleans has the worst defense in football and will get a boost from getting their head coach back, but they need to add some players who can pressure the QB. Moore possesses the flexibility to play multiple positions and a spin move reminiscent of Dwight Freeney.

17 New Orleans - Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida St.
Everyone knows the Saints will select a defender here. Werner brings an all around game to the field, but also a toughness and non stop motor that will hopefully rub off on others.

13 New Orleans
*Dee Milliner CB Alabama

17. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State: The Saints currently rank dead-last in the NFL defending the run, allowing an average of 157.8 yards on the ground to their opponents in 2012. And with Sedrick Ellis set for free agency after the season, the interior of New Orleans defensive line is a need area, making the talented, but streaky Hankins a logical pick.

16 New Orleans Saints: Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
Sedrick Ellis has been a bust. He'll be hitting free agency this March, so it's unlikely he'll be back with the team. Canadian Akiem Hicks has played well, but the Saints need someone next to him who can rush the passer on the interior. Sheldon Richardson, who has been phenomenal this season, could be that guy.

13. NO: Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU*
Mingo could certainly go sooner than this, but his draft stock is slipping after a good, but not great 2012 season. The Saints have been awful on defense and the quickest way to get better would be bolstering their pass rush.

20 New Orleans Saints, Jonathan Jenkins DT Georgia
This would be a steal for New Orleans if Jenkins were sitting here at #20. Many pundits have him ranked higher, so the Saints will be thrilled with him (or Jesse Williams) at this point. Chances are many of you (okay, ALL of you) have noticed the Saints' "Ole' " defense, allowing teams to march up and down the field, racking up points like beads around the neck at Mardi Gras. Much of that comes from the lack of any dominant run-stuffing linemen in the trenches, and Jenkins seems like he would be able to mitigate that problem to a good extent. While he has the size to be an NT in a 3-4, his lateral agility might help him translate effectively to the Saints' 4-3. He tends to play a bit too heavy, so constant work on stamina and weight control will need to be addressed. Jenkins has a solid first step, and is very powerful. He has work to do to round out his full arsenal, but he's instinctive and athletic enough right now to be a solid contributor from the outset.
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 8:13 am
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29439 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 10:43 am to
Who can we get at 32?

Posted by Cajun Invasion
Abbeville, Louisianna
Member since Jan 2012
1799 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 10:45 am to
Surprised nobody had us taking a ot. I would not mind having Dee Milner at all.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16526 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 10:58 am to
quote:

13. NO: Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU*

I wonder how he's going to translate at the next level.
Posted by Fleur de Diable
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
978 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:34 am to
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Canadian Akiem Hicks



I know where he played, but he's from Cali.

EDIT: nvm, this is pasted right? I should have known you wouldn't make a mistake like that.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 11:38 am
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33769 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Since earning New Orleans' first round selection in 2008, Sedrick Ellis has been solid in the middle. Free agent Brodrick Bunkley has also played reasonably well this season. Neither is a star, however, and the Saints are getting gashed against the run this year.


meh, we've been gashed by the run the most when we are in our nickel and dime defenses. Bunkley is not out there on those formations.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32502 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

13 New Orleans
*Dee Milliner CB Alabama



HELL NO..
Posted by loyalauron
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2012
1325 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 2:04 pm to
We should not take Mingo. He is a project. Our D does not have time for a project.

I'd like Jenkins or Hankins myself.

Early in the season I really liked Werner. I think he's got the talent to be the next Watt-esque player in the NFL .. but I think we need interior guys more, so unless we're bumping someone inside, we should avoid Werner.
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 12/2/12 at 12:41 am to
Dear god, avoid any and all Ohio State and Alabama prospects. Sheldon Richardson, DaMontre Moore, fine. But, I am sick and tired of the garbage that comes out of Alabama and Ohio State. Seriously, can you name me one defensive stud in the NFL from either of those schools right now?


Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 8:33 am to
looking to keep a little draft talk going...

Let's say they sign a free agent to be the pass rushing DE we have wanted. Insert whichever name you like (Avril, Michael Johnson, etc). They could still take another DE 1st Rd if the value was compelling but that doesn't happen often. Elite pass rushers tend to go high if anything. The question then is...

If not DE what names would be at the top of your want list at #12 (current spot) or at #22? (I won't mind this all being futile if we end up #31 or 32)

mine in no order:

#12- Taylor Lewan OT Michigan, Johnthan Banks CB MSU, Star Lotulelei DT Utah, Manti Te'o LB Notre Dame (might be a tough fit but a talent that may not be passable at 12)

#22- Eric Fisher OT Central Michigan, CJ Mosley LB Alabama, Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia, Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22129 posts
Posted on 12/8/12 at 7:31 am to
Richardson or Moore.

Please no UGA defensive linemen. We haven't exactly hit home runs with them.
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