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re: Overall just very disappointed with the lack of creativity on offense

Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:45 am to
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16935 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:45 am to
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if you haven't noticed offensive improvement over the last 4 games then i can't really help you


He's talking about creativity, not production. I agree with him.

There are about a billion different ways to run inside zone, outside zone, power, etc. and we don't. We lack creativity.

No new wrinkles, motions, etc. Anything to give defenses different looks to get away from tendencies. More of that would be good.

I'm negative though.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31777 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 11:09 am to
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No new wrinkles, motions, etc


all you needed to do was watch the bama game. Many times we came out on 1st down in heavy sets and threw out of them with success.

There is no need to overload your younger players (first year starting qb, two freshman OL, young wr's) with tons of change ups. If we execute what we do well and we win with it, why change it drastically. We added enough adjustments to beat bama. The defense just didn't finish the game. Early vs UF we had a lot of issues including MAJOR drops by the wr's and lots of OL shuffling.
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 11:11 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:14 pm to
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He's talking about creativity, not production. I agree with him.


production is all that matters. and i don't think that's what he's talking about at all. too many times, our play calling goes into super conservative mode; all GOOD teams do this but we do this so often defenses plan for it and we can't run the damn ball against 8 man fronts in those situations. it's like we need short yardage and we never do anything but run up the middle in that situation. WE HAVE TOO MANY TENDENCIES and they are highly predictable. Stanford and Notre Dame run the same offense with the same plays we do. there are other successful teams that do it too. we need to not always run the same damn play in certain situations. i'm not "creativity" is the right word because some of the yahoos on here will never be satisfied until we run oregons offense but we NEED TO EXAMINE OUR TENDENCIES this offseason if we want a trip back to the NC.
Posted by tiger in the gump
Member since Jan 2005
776 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:31 pm to
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He's talking about creativity, not production. I agree with him.

There are about a billion different ways to run inside zone, outside zone, power, etc. and we don't. We lack creativity.

No new wrinkles, motions, etc. Anything to give defenses different looks to get away from tendencies. More of that would be good.



what is your experience evaluating variation or the addition or ommission of wrinkles in an offensive play? Bc if it's simply watching it from a novice eye, all the plays look the same. But I'm sure there's adjustments and variation the untrained eye can see, especially observing high levels of just about any discipline.
Posted by golf teaching pro
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
604 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:26 pm to
Now that's a guy who knows something about offense! Our fans are so use to the same 4 plays over and over they can't appreciate art. Watching Oregon play offense is art! I am glad we beat you but your team is fun to watch.
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8310 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:04 am to
My criticism of the offense is this. But it has been this for quite a while.

1) We don't really utilize creative screens to back off the linebackers from stuffing the run and get defensive players out of the box.
2) Our passing game seems to rely on mostly long pass routes that take to long to develp.
3) We don't do enough to get the ball in the hands of guys with speed in space.
4) If your QB is not shown consistent proficiency throwing the deep ball practice it against non conference light weights and Monday - Friday but not on Saturday against SEC teams.
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