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VABuckeye  Ohio State Fan Oak Hill, VA Member since Dec 2007 8115 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 12:25 pm to H-Town Tiger)
I agree. Just messing with him. I didn't realize until yesterday the impact on cable subscribers of having a B1G team in their market vs not having a team in the market. It's about 8X the money in the pockets of BTN.
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SadSouthernBuck  Ohio State Fan Las Vegas Member since Dec 2007 41 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 12:28 pm to VABuckeye)
1.45 EST news conference to announce Rutgers joing the B1G.
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nicholastiger  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Jan 2004 3953 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 12:47 pm to 504Saint)
Does the DC and New York market really give you more exposure - those are professional towns that swallow up any real college broadcasts
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VABuckeye  Ohio State Fan Oak Hill, VA Member since Dec 2007 8115 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 12:51 pm to nicholastiger)
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Does the DC and New York market really give you more exposure
1) Tons of B1G alums in those areas. 2) It doesn't matter if they tune to the channel. If the provider carries the BTN and there is a B1G team in the market the BTN gets 8X the money (give or take).
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Feed Me Popeyes  LSU Fan Baltimore, MD Member since Apr 2008 1962 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 1:10 pm to H-Town Tiger)
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it would be if it was remotely true, the extra cost of the BTN would be minimal in some sports package and there will be an SECN soon as well.
uh, inside much (or all?) of the current Big 10 footprint, the BTN has managed to get on basic cable. Thus, everybody with basic cable is paying for it. That's not the same as it being "in some sports pacakage" (which is where the BTN is currently in my viewing area). I see no way around the eventuality I'm going to be paying for BTN in the future if I want to keep ESPN, TBS, etc. Like I said - Big Ten tax And by the way, an SECN will not end up on basic cable in Maryland. Not a good comparison. I'm not sweating the couple extra bucks...honestly I just resent where it's going to go 
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StraightCashHomey21  West Virginia Fan Ramstein AB Member since Jul 2009 30102 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 1:16 pm to nicholastiger)
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those are professional towns that swallow up any real college broadcasts
no true they have plenty of football fans on the college level but many do not back the local school
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Muahahaha  Ohio State Fan Ohio Member since Nov 2005 3123 posts

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Gene Wojciechowski best sums it up.
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The Big 14 (and counting) Ever play "Risk?" It's a board game (remember those?) where the object is to conquer the world. It's a lesson in strategy, geography and choosing your battles. The Big Ten looked at the college football (and basketball) map and realized it was in danger of being outflanked. So it rolled the bones and added Maryland on Monday and Rutgers on Tuesday. The Terrapins and Scarlet Knights aren't sexy choices, but they're effective ones. True, there is nothing Midwestern about the two newest members of the Big Ten. They're the plaid shirt to the Big Ten's striped pants. But this wasn't about finding the perfect eHarmony date. It was about finding the perfect safe harbor. Rutgers and Maryland give the Big Ten geographical protection. They give the conference entry into the New York and mid-Atlantic cable markets.
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The Big 14 (and counting), Part II Think of the Big Ten as Five Guys. It just opened a franchise directly across the street from McDonald's (the ACC) and Burger King (the Big East). In essence, the Big Ten just told the ACC, "You want to brawl, we'll brawl." It told the Big East, "We didn't start this, but we'll finish it if we have to." The expansion and realignment arms race has begun again. The Big Ten had watched the ACC use the Big East as its own personal chop shop and decided it had to act. It couldn't allow Penn State to be isolated by ACC members Boston College, Pittsburgh and Syracuse (and maybe UConn soon enough). The ACC's alliance with Notre Dame certainly had an effect on the Big Ten's strategy, as did the collapse of the Big Ten/Pac-12 collaboration. There's a turf war going on in college sports. It is survival of the fittest and right now, the Big Ten, ACC, SEC, Pac-12 and, OK, the Big 12 look pretty healthy. The Big East? On its last legs.
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H-Town Tiger  Virginia Tech Fan DIANELANEPANETRANE Member since Nov 2003 41030 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 2:30 pm to Feed Me Popeyes)
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inside much (or all?) of the current Big 10 footprint, the BTN has managed to get on basic cable. Thus, everybody with basic cable is paying for it.
how much? a few cents at most probably.
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That's not the same as it being "in some sports pacakage" (which is where the BTN is currently in my viewing area
What's your viewing area? It won't be on basic cable in SEC states. Say it's a B1G tax is like saying there is a Lifetime tax or whatever, the cost per channel, espeically for stuff like that is minimal.
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And by the way, an SECN will not end up on basic cable in Maryland. Not a good comparison.
Who cares? The B1GN won't end up on basic cable in Louisiana or Alabama or Florida.
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teke184  LSU Fan Zachary, LA Member since Jan 2007 5660 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 2:39 pm to H-Town Tiger)
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inside much (or all?) of the current Big 10 footprint, the BTN has managed to get on basic cable. Thus, everybody with basic cable is paying for it.
how much? a few cents at most probably.
I don't remember the exact rates, but it's something like $0.03 per subscriber for a state without a Big Ten team and significantly more, like $0.20 per subscriber, for a state like Ohio or Michigan with a Big Ten team. $0.20 per subscriber adds up quickly when you're talking about large cable systems in New Jersey and Maryland.
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VABuckeye  Ohio State Fan Oak Hill, VA Member since Dec 2007 8115 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 2:46 pm to H-Town Tiger)
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Who cares? The BTN won't end up on basic cable in Louisiana or Alabama or Florida.
Pretty big difference in the number of households between the NJ/NY/Maryland/DC markets and those you mentioned.
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VABuckeye  Ohio State Fan Oak Hill, VA Member since Dec 2007 8115 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 2:47 pm to teke184)
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I don't remember the exact rates, but it's something like $0.03 per subscriber for a state without a Big Ten team and significantly more, like $0.20 per subscriber, for a state like Ohio or Michigan with a Big Ten team. $0.20 per subscriber adds up quickly when you're talking about large cable systems in New Jersey and Maryland.
From what I've read it's the difference between $0.10 a subscriber and $0.80 a subscriber if there is a team in the market. 8X the money adds up in a hurry especially when you look at the population base.
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Muahahaha  Ohio State Fan Ohio Member since Nov 2005 3123 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 2:50 pm to VABuckeye)
The realignment cycle's next spin Good insight from Schlabach.
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Bunk Moreland  Michigan Fan Detroit, MI Member since Dec 2010 3217 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 3:44 pm to Muahahaha)
SIAP.
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Whether anyone watches is irrelevant. Conferences used to chase eyeballs. They still do only now it doesn't matter if the eyeballs are even open. The genius of the Big Ten Network (or any cable channel like it) is it is essentially a Big Ten tax. The passion of the Superfan, who actually may watch, forces providers to make every cable home in a state dole out maybe 50 or 75 cents a month to the conference, whether or not they know a football is inflated or stuffed. Nearly every citizen is essentially taxed for living in a state with a Big Ten athletic department. Big programs like to boast they're self-sufficient and don't use public money that goes to the general university, but this is an end-around that accomplishes the same thing. You don't pay on April 15 via the state. You pay every month via Comcast. It's genius. It's absolutely fabulously genius. So genius the Pac 12 is now trying it, the SEC is going to try it and the University of Texas is trying it all by itself (with few buyers thus far, though). It's genius unless home entertainment goes a la carte one day, but you won't see that concept in the revenue projections.
Dan Wetzel.
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Feed Me Popeyes  LSU Fan Baltimore, MD Member since Apr 2008 1962 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/20/12 at 7:20 pm to Bunk Moreland)
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The genius of the Big Ten Network (or any cable channel like it) is it is essentially a Big Ten tax.
holy shite I swear I came up with "Big Ten tax" on my own
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Interception Providence Fan Member since Nov 2008 8563 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/21/12 at 1:15 am to Bunk Moreland)
SEC will end up with a 16 Team Conference Adding: Va Tech and North Carolina in the SEC East w/ Missouri moving to the SEC West makes the most sense. I don't see the member schools allowing Clemson or FSU in the SEC.
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StraightCashHomey21  West Virginia Fan Ramstein AB Member since Jul 2009 30102 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:52 am to Interception)
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Adding: Va Tech and North Carolina
so much would need to happen for this to go down
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hiltacular  Georgia Tech Fan ATL Member since Jan 2011 5844 posts

| re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN (Posted on 11/21/12 at 7:51 am to VABuckeye)
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I didn't realize until yesterday the impact on cable subscribers of having a B1G team in their market vs not having a team in the market. It's about 8X the money in the pockets of BTN.
If the B1G convinced GT to jump ship. they would have an incredibly wide TV market.
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