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re: My bullet saved me from the worst shot I've made on a deer in 30 years yesterda
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:30 pm to bapple
Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:30 pm to bapple
Tiger I'm not sure what kind of pressures you can take but for some reason I'm not convinced this would make a good handgun round as we're doing it. I'd want to drop velocity on it a lot, not that the barrel length wouldn't already do it but jesus... BOOM. But rifle calibers in pistols is not my forte so you might be right.
Bapple, in my buddies .308 last year he hunted with 167s I think it was. Because we were tuning the rifle for poking a hole in a target. He shot a deer with a crossing shot that went behind the liver and came out in front of the opposite ham. Luckily it cut that artery on the spine and of course a round that heavy knocked a hole in that deer but I was unimpressed with the damage. It was like shoving a toilet paper roll through it and everything inside is fricked but beyond that, not so much.
We switched him to 125 gr this year and he hit a perfect heart shot that just blew the thing away. Took out a rib on each side plus the heart and blew up the lungs and left a massive exit wound behind the opposite shoulder.. In the .308 the round is doing 3000fps so slower than the 06, and obviously the groups aren't going to be as tight because of the BC difference but I stand behind that one too for the same reason. Whitetails are light weight and you have to get damage from the bullet quickly or you miss your chance. Plus the difference in the groups was no more than a half inch at the outside.
That bullet makes a very effective deer round for the .308. I think the key is just making sure you've got it at around 3000 fps.
Gonna find that post and copy it here. Got a lot of pics in that one too.
Bapple, in my buddies .308 last year he hunted with 167s I think it was. Because we were tuning the rifle for poking a hole in a target. He shot a deer with a crossing shot that went behind the liver and came out in front of the opposite ham. Luckily it cut that artery on the spine and of course a round that heavy knocked a hole in that deer but I was unimpressed with the damage. It was like shoving a toilet paper roll through it and everything inside is fricked but beyond that, not so much.
We switched him to 125 gr this year and he hit a perfect heart shot that just blew the thing away. Took out a rib on each side plus the heart and blew up the lungs and left a massive exit wound behind the opposite shoulder.. In the .308 the round is doing 3000fps so slower than the 06, and obviously the groups aren't going to be as tight because of the BC difference but I stand behind that one too for the same reason. Whitetails are light weight and you have to get damage from the bullet quickly or you miss your chance. Plus the difference in the groups was no more than a half inch at the outside.
That bullet makes a very effective deer round for the .308. I think the key is just making sure you've got it at around 3000 fps.
Gonna find that post and copy it here. Got a lot of pics in that one too.
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:38 pm to faxis
This is from another thread a couple weeks ago. He actually shot this opening day.
Lets take a look at what a Nosler Ballistic Tip in .308 does to a buck at 100 yards. Yesterday morning.
Here's the entry hole side. The hole is in that shoulder in the dark area. The shock to this side extends from way up in the neck down to behind the diaghram. This bullet hit ribs on both sides.
Exit hole. Yes, exit. I've killed more deer than I can count with this round out of '06 at 3200FPS and never once stopped it. Apparently you ain't stopping it in .308 either but that's the smallest exit wound I've ever seen on one of these. Doing around 3000 FPS
The heart, or what's left of it. I wish I'd gotten a pic of the cavity. The chest cavity was cherry jelly. Just liquid and snot. Nothing that looked like it actually came from a lung in there.
Entry on the left, exit on the right.
The fartherest I've ever seen a deer run after being hit by this is about 80 yrds. And that was a dead deer running spraying blood like a firehose.
Edit to add.
Entry hole where it struck the rib and turned it into a bomb.
Exit hole where it shows that the bullet is still intact, and still full of energy enough to blow this side up too even upon impact with another rib.
Lets take a look at what a Nosler Ballistic Tip in .308 does to a buck at 100 yards. Yesterday morning.
Here's the entry hole side. The hole is in that shoulder in the dark area. The shock to this side extends from way up in the neck down to behind the diaghram. This bullet hit ribs on both sides.
Exit hole. Yes, exit. I've killed more deer than I can count with this round out of '06 at 3200FPS and never once stopped it. Apparently you ain't stopping it in .308 either but that's the smallest exit wound I've ever seen on one of these. Doing around 3000 FPS
The heart, or what's left of it. I wish I'd gotten a pic of the cavity. The chest cavity was cherry jelly. Just liquid and snot. Nothing that looked like it actually came from a lung in there.
Entry on the left, exit on the right.
The fartherest I've ever seen a deer run after being hit by this is about 80 yrds. And that was a dead deer running spraying blood like a firehose.
Edit to add.
Entry hole where it struck the rib and turned it into a bomb.
Exit hole where it shows that the bullet is still intact, and still full of energy enough to blow this side up too even upon impact with another rib.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 11/20/12 at 12:03 am to faxis
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We switched him to 125 gr this year and he hit a perfect heart shot that just blew the thing away
I guess I was referring more to accuracy than anything. A heavier bullet will certainly perform differently than a slighter, faster one. I think you will get more practical accuracy out of a heavier one, but for shooting-deer's sake, the 125gr you're throwing at them seems to do the job.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 12:02 pm to faxis
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Tiger I'm not sure what kind of pressures you can take but for some reason I'm not convinced this would make a good handgun round as we're doing it. I'd want to drop velocity on it a lot, not that the barrel length wouldn't already do it but jesus... BOOM.
Understand your concern, but the gun I'm shooting is a Savage Striker (built on the usual Savage bolt action) so it can handle typical pressures like any other bolt action. Handling the gun's recoil and muzzle blast is not that big a challenge after some practice and using the right set up.
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