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re: My bullet saved me from the worst shot I've made on a deer in 30 years yesterda
Posted on 11/18/12 at 9:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 11/18/12 at 9:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Yeah I do too. Which is why I always wondered at your hate for the .243 because that's another one where I've never even seen it wound a deer. Every one I've been around dropped in it's tracks.
The things I've seen wound more deer than anything are 30-30's and 30-06 180 gr bullets. I've seen those 180's wound more deer than I've seen them kill. Because a whitetail isn't big enough to effectively slow it down so you just get a little hole through it. Same spot with that 125 and you don't even have to trail it. It's dead.
I think the point I'm trying to make is that with the high velocity rounds, on whitetails, you go from a kill zone the size of a basketball to the size of a small gym bag. I normally take heart or neck shots but every once in awhile you end up in that situation I was in yesterday and you just aren't perfectly set up for the shot. I like the extra margin for error.
The things I've seen wound more deer than anything are 30-30's and 30-06 180 gr bullets. I've seen those 180's wound more deer than I've seen them kill. Because a whitetail isn't big enough to effectively slow it down so you just get a little hole through it. Same spot with that 125 and you don't even have to trail it. It's dead.
I think the point I'm trying to make is that with the high velocity rounds, on whitetails, you go from a kill zone the size of a basketball to the size of a small gym bag. I normally take heart or neck shots but every once in awhile you end up in that situation I was in yesterday and you just aren't perfectly set up for the shot. I like the extra margin for error.
This post was edited on 11/18/12 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 11/18/12 at 10:15 pm to faxis
I've been on more .243 track jobs than anything else. I've just never been impressed by it at all. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to many with tiny exits or no exits at all making for some shitty tracking often with a live deer at the end of it. I've yet to see an impressive .243 wound. It just doesn't have enough arse for consistently going through both shoulders.
By the same token, I go on plenty 7mag tracking jobs too. People just INSIST on using elk bullets for deer just because they cost more.
So here you have both sides of the coin. Something that explodes, and something that pinholes. I love em both because they get my dogs plenty work. Ill also never hunt with either one unless I get a 7mag for ultra long range fun.
By the same token, I go on plenty 7mag tracking jobs too. People just INSIST on using elk bullets for deer just because they cost more.
So here you have both sides of the coin. Something that explodes, and something that pinholes. I love em both because they get my dogs plenty work. Ill also never hunt with either one unless I get a 7mag for ultra long range fun.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:27 am to faxis
I am definitely a believer in ballistic tips. They fragment on entering and create so many wound cavities that the internal bleeding is massive. I shot a buck right up the pooper two years ago and he didn't go more than 10 feet. The internals were destroyed. They still have plenty of energy on impact and will punch through a shoulder as well. I have also dropped a doe that was staring at me about 150 yds out. Shot her straight in the chest same story on the internals. I shoot 130 gr winchester ballistic silver tips out of my .270
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